Congressman Gutierrez will not seek re-election: Politico

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6 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I do know that, but Gutierrez doesn’t give us any details as to how he is going to reform the current visa process.  Therefore we are left to our own imaginations.  You believe your view and I believe mine.  Of course there are a lot of issues with our current system, but what is to be done?  Gutierrez nor the link you provided doesn’t say.  

Except your opinion requires taking what he has actually said, and just assuming I guess he is lying? Since you feel like he hasn't explained enough.

 

Sure you can have that opinion...but it's a little strange and rather dishonest. It seems to assume he is just misleading and lying.

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He has made his feelings known, everyone gets a visa, aka open borders.

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Just now, Boiler said:

He has made his feelings known, everyone gets a visa, aka open borders.

except he literally says:

 

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We need to get those with no criminal records into the system,

no criminals, so not 'everyone' so not 'open borders'

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Just now, smilesammich said:

except he literally says:

 

no criminals, so not 'everyone' so not 'open borders'

Large chunk of the world has no effective system of checking, not sure if they require Police Reports from Mexico, they never did because they were worthless.

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Large chunk of the world has no effective system of checking, not sure if they require Police Reports from Mexico, they never did because they were worthless.

 so now the argument is we can't give mexicans visas because we can't tell if they're criminals or not so therefore gutierrez wants open borders?

 

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

 so now the argument is we can't give mexicans visas because we can't tell if they're criminals or not so therefore gutierrez wants open borders?

 

Huh, you quoted me and I never said that.

 

He said everybody gets a visa, then qualified it as excluding criminals, well obviously many most criminals have no criminal record and in many places it is impossible to effectively find out who has, just pointing out how meaningless that comment was.

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5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Huh, you quoted me and I never said that.

 

He said everybody gets a visa, then qualified it as excluding criminals, well obviously many most criminals have no criminal record and in many places it is impossible to effectively find out who has, just pointing out how meaningless that comment was.

you never said what?

where does he say everybody gets a visa? why can't i find this quote?