Merry Christmas is back at the White House

[Dashinka 24,793]

1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

Not a Christian thing about 'em.... nor is Christmas for that matter.

Interesting, why do you say that (the first part)?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Just now, jayjayj said:

But they are.  Are you implying that they aren't?  That would be very strange of you indeed.

How come someone can be Muslim or Jewish and still be either if they are not practicing.

 

But if you identify culturally as Christian you have to be a bible thumping Jimmy Swaggart he'll preaching , always on evangelical. 

 

That's kind of Racist. No it's very RACIST.

 

I celebrate Christmas,  identify as one during the holidays but I am not practicing. 

[yuna628 9,713]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Interesting, why do you say that (the first part)?

Do you have any evidence to suggest Donald Trump is a Christian?

Faith without works is dead. Empty faith and dead works is also dead.

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1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

How come someone can be Muslim or Jewish and still be either if they are not practicing.

 

But if you identify culturally as Christian you have to be a bible thumping Jimmy Swaggart he'll preaching , always on evangelical. 

 

That's kind of Racist. No it's very RACIST.

 

I celebrate Christmas,  identify as one during the holidays but I am not practicing. 

Is it racist, or is it....theolocist? theocist? religiouscist? 

 

Trying to come up with a good word.

 

I agree though. Trump doesn't strike me as a particularly "Good Christian", but if he identifies as one I'm not going to argue with him. I identify as Christian but don't think of myself as a particularly good one.

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

How come someone can be Muslim or Jewish and still be either if they are not practicing.

 

But if you identify culturally as Christian you have to be a bible thumping Jimmy Swaggart he'll preaching , always on evangelical. 

 

That's kind of Racist. No it's very RACIST.

 

I celebrate Christmas,  identify as one during the holidays but I am not practicing. 

Same here.  I haven't been to church services in over 20 years.  I guess I'll have to self-identify as a Pagan now and I'm not allowed to celebrate Christmas this year.  The kids are going to be disappointed.  

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, yuna628 said:

Do you have any evidence to suggest Donald Trump is a Christian?

Faith without works is dead. Empty faith and dead works is also dead.

He identifies as one.  Is that not evidence?  Do you have any evidence to suggest that he isn't?  You are the one making the accusation, so you should prove it, not ask someone else to prove you wrong.

 

I don't understand your second sentence.

[yuna628 9,713]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

How come someone can be Muslim or Jewish and still be either if they are not practicing.

 

But if you identify culturally as Christian you have to be a bible thumping Jimmy Swaggart he'll preaching , always on evangelical. 

 

That's kind of Racist. No it's very RACIST.

 

I celebrate Christmas,  identify as one during the holidays but I am not practicing. 

Being Jewish is something you are born - i.e. Jesus was a Jewish and Jewish-faith practicing man.

One is not born a Christian, and it seems, once identifying as such have a hard time trying to define into what that actually means..

 

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

He identifies as one.  Is that not evidence?  Do you have any evidence to suggest that he isn't?  You are the one making the accusation, so you should prove it, not ask someone else to prove you wrong.

 

I don't understand your second sentence.

He identifies like one, as Rachel Dolezal identifies as African American. Doesn't make it truth.

[jayjayj 571]

3 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Being Jewish is something you are born - i.e. Jesus was a Jewish and Jewish-faith practicing man.

One is not born a Christian, and it seems, once identifying as such have a hard time trying to define into what that actually means..

 

He identifies like one, as Rachel Dolezal identifies as African American. Doesn't make it truth.

What??  

 

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3 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

What??  

 

Technically that is true. Christianity is not a faith that one is from birth, according to the bible. In Judaism they believe you are born Jewish (based on your mother's origins I believe) regardless of going through any rites or confirmations after birth. Not true for Christianity, traditionally.

 

Of course there may be groups out there that identify as Christian and believe you are "born" Christian...but they wouldn't exactly be following the "words of the Lord" in the bible. No one can keep track of all the fringe religious groups these days.

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[Steeleballz 7,550]

19 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

How come someone can be Muslim or Jewish and still be either if they are not practicing.

 

But if you identify culturally as Christian you have to be a bible thumping Jimmy Swaggart he'll preaching , always on evangelical. 

 

That's kind of Racist. No it's very RACIST.

 

I celebrate Christmas,  identify as one during the holidays but I am not practicing. 

 

  To who? The Christian race?

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, bcking said:

Technically that is true. Christianity is not a faith that one is from birth, according to the bible. In Judaism they believe you are born Jewish (based on your mother's origins I believe) regardless of going through any rites or confirmations after birth. Not true for Christianity.

Ivanka Trump was not born Jewish, but she is now.

 

If President Trump identifies as a Christian, then he is a Christian.  He might not be "practicing" or attending church services, but he is still a Christian.  Just like I am still a Christian.

 

 

Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

  To who? The Christian race?

To Christians.  It is is discriminatory. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

29 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Naga. I am exhausted from the winning 

 

   Yes Naga indeed

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2 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

Ivanka Trump was not born Jewish, but she is now.

 

If President Trump identifies as a Christian, then he is a Christian.  He might not be "practicing" or attending church services, but he is still a Christian.  Just like I am still a Christian.

Yes you can convert to Judaism, but the vast majority of people in the Jewish faith are "born into it" and that is appropriate for their faith.

 

Christianity, at its core, is about being born again. We are all born sinners, and we have to "accept Jesus Christ as our savior" in order to "become Christian". You aren't born automatically accepting him. So you aren't Christian from birth. You can be born in a Christian family, but at some point it has to be a personal choice. No one can accept him as your savior for you.

[Dashinka 24,793]

4 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

Ivanka Trump was not born Jewish, but she is now.

 

If President Trump identifies as a Christian, then he is a Christian.  He might not be "practicing" or attending church services, but he is still a Christian.  Just like I am still a Christian.

 

 

To Christians.  It is is discriminatory. 

Is it tough being a Christian in the UAE?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

 

To Christians.  It is is discriminatory. 

 

   To all Christians? How so?