Multiple illegal entries

[Sidney and Dennis 40]

4 minutes ago, NigeriaorBust said:

  For a long time airlines have been required to report their passenger list .   It isn't really a question of if it is when.  When they do this lie is significant enough for them to revoke all immigration benefits and earn a lifetime ban,

Thank you

[geowrian 22,337]

17 minutes ago, Sidney and Dennis said:

He did not disclose he left and came back a second time no. He is stupid for lying but yea I wanted to know if they would find that information in the interview anyway. I understand because of his lie there’s the risk of the ban but I was just curious if they would find out 

Not just a ban...if they somehow don't notice notice it right now (unlikely IMHO), any immigration benefit obtained via that lie can be revoked once they become aware of the lie.

Edited November 28, 2017 by geowrian

[Hypnos 6,576]

This would probably constitute material misrepresentation if he doesn't disclose it, which is a lifetime bar from the US.

 

It's also perjury, as noted on immigration forms, to intentionally lie or omit facts.

[Boiler 45,656]

Currently 9C lifetime ban waiverable after 10 years.

[caliliving 606]

he should probably talk to his lawyer.  I am assuming he is hoping no one knows he left in 2009 and came back, they just think he was here for the entire time.  (it was probably a short trip home). 

3 hours ago, aleful said:

hi

 

it doesn't matter, how does he justify 8 years? where has he lived and worked? also, if he ever opened a bank account, drove a car, worked in those 8 years, had a card, he lived here for 8 years, he can't lie about that, and if he is caught in a lie, so long petition

 

 

they know he was here illegally he said that and i am assuming that he said he came to the USA illegally in 2001 and was here the entire time and  in reality left for CR in 2009 for a short time.  The job and working doesnt really matter as unauthorized work is forgiven when married to a USC anyways. 

 

Regardless, it is misrepresentation and it could be found out at ANY time during the immigration process! it could be found out when he gets citizenship and it would be alot of trouble! 

The US keeps a record of when your flight leaves.  When he goes to the interview they will have the information about the flight leaving in 2009 (if records were kept back then). he should talk to his lawyer. 

[Boiler 45,656]

1 minute ago, caliliving said:

he should probably talk to his lawyer.  I am assuming he is hoping no one knows he left in 2009 and came back, they just think he was here for the entire time.  (it was probably a short trip home). 

they know he was here illegally he said that and i am assuming that he said he came to the USA illegally in 2001 and was here the entire time and  in reality left for CR in 2009 for a short time.  The job and working doesnt really matter as unauthorized work is forgiven when married to a USC anyways. 

 

Regardless, it is misrepresentation and it could be found out at ANY time during the immigration process! it could be found out when he gets citizenship and it would be alot of trouble! 

The US keeps a record of when your flight leaves.  When he goes to the interview they will have the information about the flight leaving in 2009 (if records were kept back then). he should talk to his lawyer. 

Records are kept from them.

 

Computers.

[acidrain 325]

They will know about the flight if it left the US. I have had past flight itineraries recited back to me every time I report to secondary. It states when you entered and when you left. I think it's one of the first things border agents see on their screen. They flat out told me that every trip I've taken the consulate is going to know about. I was actually surprised the border has no record of immigration petitions but the consulate knows about flights.

 

I would be shocked if they didn't ask about the flight leaving the US. Airports check ID's. It would be foolish to say "oh that wasn't me there must be some mistake".

 

I agree it would be wise to speak to an immigration attorney as this situation sounds like it could get very serious.

Edited November 28, 2017 by acidrain

[kris&me 572]

simple  

passport is scanned to board any plane and at customs and immigration at POE

information is in computer

immigration knows when you arrrive here 

they know when you left

[Sidney and Dennis 40]

Thank you all that replied... yea my friend is stubborn and thinks he has all the answers so we’ll see what happens in 3 weeks when he has his interview. He is so stupid for lying

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

   They are kept track of passenger info since 9-11 for sure.  We had an AOS reported as  denied years ago here  because the person bought a round trip ticket on a K1 didn't cancel the return and the airlines mistakenly reported him as on the plane.  They know.  He may have someone at the interview to take him into custody .   Hope he leaves instructions on what to do with his stuff if he doesn't return home.

[Going through 5,671]

59 minutes ago, Sidney and Dennis said:

Thank you all that replied... yea my friend is stubborn and thinks he has all the answers so we’ll see what happens in 3 weeks when he has his interview. He is so stupid for lying

Let us know how the interview turns out.

[Sidney and Dennis 40]

34 minutes ago, NigeriaorBust said:

   They are kept track of passenger info since 9-11 for sure.  We had an AOS reported as  denied years ago here  because the person bought a round trip ticket on a K1 didn't cancel the return and the airlines mistakenly reported him as on the plane.  They know.  He may have someone at the interview to take him into custody .   Hope he leaves instructions on what to do with his stuff if he doesn't return home.

Wow yea maybe this will be a lesson for my friend i don’t know. I hope it doesn’t come to this but it’s wrong to lie 

Just now, Going through said:

Let us know how the interview turns out.

Ok I’ll let you know

[Going through 5,671]

43 minutes ago, NigeriaorBust said:

He may have someone at the interview to take him into custody .   Hope he leaves instructions on what to do with his stuff if he doesn't return home.

Unlikely he would be taken into custody since he is having the interview in his home country?

[pushbrk 12,968]

12 hours ago, TNJ17 said:

Don’t they ask for your entry card back when you fly out? At least that’s always been the case when I have flown out. That’s how they keep record of who’s overstaying or who’s illegal. 

Knowing who has overstayed is different from knowing who is traveling.  Either way, it has not been directly stated that he traveled by air.  Nothing has been indicated about how he traveled, only that he left the USA.  He didn't fly to get here illegally, so why should we assume he flew when he left?

[acidrain 325]

10 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Knowing who has overstayed is different from knowing who is traveling.  Either way, it has not been directly stated that he traveled by air.  Nothing has been indicated about how he traveled, only that he left the USA.  He didn't fly to get here illegally, so why should we assume he flew when he left?

In his first post he indicated his friend left on a plane but didn't indicate how he came back to the US. I presume by land as any POE at the airport would've denied entry.

 

15 hours ago, Sidney and Dennis said:

My friend is about to have his ir1 interview overseas. He came here in 2001 illegally but left to go back to Costa Rica in 2009 on a plane and then came back to the us illegally again. He had his 601a approved but I’m not sure if he told his lawyer he came illegally twice. So when he goes to his interview in a few weeks will the officer find out he left the us in 2009