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10 hours ago, bcking said:

There is a difference between deflecting, and applying an opinion more broadly. 

Based on what I have learned over the years here in CEHST, people on the right deflect, and people on the left are applying their broad opinions to help teach the right about the error of their ways.

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49 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Based on what I have learned over the years here in CEHST, people on the right deflect, and people on the left are applying their broad opinions to help teach the right about the error of their ways.

It isn't hard to notice the difference. I can't speak for other people though.

 

Deflecting would be to ignore the original argument and say "but what about this other thing". Or to claim the original argument isn't valid, but offer a very related comment about "the other side" that is very similar but for some reason more valid in your viewpoint.

 

I didn't refute the original argument. I instead said that if that is the case, we should be able to apply it to everyone. Every news outlet (Fox for example, whose CEO was a liar and serial sexual assaulter) as well as politicians.

 

I agree their likes make it difficult to trust them. But the same can be said for Fox news when their CEO was so bad. Even more could be said of many politicians that people trust.

 

In just trying to apply an even handed approach. You could say I'm just trying to drive in the middle. Only fair to apply things to all sides instead of conveniently ignoring one.

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1 hour ago, bcking said:

It isn't hard to notice the difference. I can't speak for other people though.

 

Deflecting would be to ignore the original argument and say "but what about this other thing". Or to claim the original argument isn't valid, but offer a very related comment about "the other side" that is very similar but for some reason more valid in your viewpoint.

 

I didn't refute the original argument. I instead said that if that is the case, we should be able to apply it to everyone. Every news outlet (Fox for example, whose CEO was a liar and serial sexual assaulter) as well as politicians.

 

I agree their likes make it difficult to trust them. But the same can be said for Fox news when their CEO was so bad. Even more could be said of many politicians that people trust.

 

In just trying to apply an even handed approach. You could say I'm just trying to drive in the middle. Only fair to apply things to all sides instead of conveniently ignoring one.

Relax, George, I wasn’t referring to you in particular.  Just broad observation.

 

Welcome to the MOR.  I think you might need a tad more training, but there’s always room for one more in here!

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16 hours ago, IDWAF said:

Relax, George, I wasn’t referring to you in particular.  Just broad observation.

 

Welcome to the MOR.  I think you might need a tad more training, but there’s always room for one more in here!

Sorry I'm not interesting in joining the "MOR" that is claimed frequently on these forums. That group needs a GPS to get back on the road. I'll make my own way.

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26 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

It's pretty much not a group,  but you know that. Am I in your head that bad with the  pro wrestling style MOR foolishness? Or perhaps it's just me that has you obsessed. 

Either way I am flattered by you constantly alluding to me in your posts.

I personally wouldn't be flattered...

 

But I guess whatever helps you sleep at night.

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But, but TRUMP!

 

 

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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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8 minutes ago, bcking said:

Said by no one but you...

 

But please go ahead with your incredibly simplistic and ill informed assessment.

Must have seen a hundred plus threads on here that could be condensed to this.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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21 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Must have seen a hundred plus threads on here that could be condensed to this.

Totally agree.

 

The post I quoted is certainly not unique to just this thread. There is an abundance of posts just like it in lots of conversations here.

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7 hours ago, bcking said:

Totally agree.

 

The post I quoted is certainly not unique to just this thread. There is an abundance of posts just like it in lots of conversations here.

Maybe a pinned thread (at least for a while) for all these allegations.

 

On another note, why is this all coming to a head now?  Most of these allegations are against relatively powerful men, who in many cases have been doing this for years and several people say much of this was well known.  Sure there have been allegations like this in the past (Cosby, Kennedy, Trump, Clinton, etc.), but it seems a sort of dam burst has occurred particularly since Harvey Weinstein’s proclivities became public knowledge.

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8 hours ago, Boiler said:

Must have seen a hundred plus threads on here that could be condensed to this.

You managed to convey your point , with out 6 paragraphs of "look how smart I want all of you to think I am, self flagellation dropping hoarse feathers".

 

We love you for that. 

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Maybe a pinned thread (at least for a while) for all these allegations.

 

On another note, why is this all coming to a head now?  Most of these allegations are against relatively powerful men, who in many cases have been doing this for years and several people say much of this was well known.  Sure there have been allegations like this in the past (Cosby, Kennedy, Trump, Clinton, etc.), but it seems a sort of dam burst has occurred particularly since Harvey Weinstein’s proclivities became public knowledge.

I think it is a combination of the severity of the Weinstein story, and the swiftness and severity of his fall. Perhaps women feel like their voices will actually be heard now, instead of excuses being made etc...

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

You managed to convey your point , with out 6 paragraphs of "look how smart I want all of you to think I am, self flagellation dropping hoarse feathers".

 

We love you for that. 

Brevity is ineffective without accuracy.

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56 minutes ago, bcking said:

Brevity is ineffective without accuracy.

Probably best for you to avoid brevity.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 

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