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[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

So many possibilities in your post.  Remind me again how many women have made claims vs. how many who have taken him to court on the matter of his predation?

 

They let you do it means there is no force.  Unless they are drunk or high, that is consent.

so you believe trump is an all powerful mind reader. i don't really see the point in discussing this with you.

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Just now, smilesammich said:

so you believe trump is an all powerful mind reader. i don't really see the point in discussing this with you.

Men can tell 

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4 minutes ago, bcking said:

So what was he talking about when he said he doesn't wait?

 

Doesn't wait for what?

Making a move.  Why wait, when they are eager for his attention?

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1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

Making a move.  Why wait, when they are eager for his attention?

Wait for what? You still haven't answered it.

 

What, from the woman, does he "not wait" for? 

 

I agree he is saying he "Doesn't wait to make my move"...but what are you talking about when you say that? Clearly by saying he doesn't wait, he means there is something that the woman COULD provide, but that he isn't going to wait for.

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5 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I dont prove things. Things prove me.

 

My life experiences. Women are attracted to money and power. Not all. But a majority for sure 

 

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Men can tell 

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5 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Men can tell 

"I know she wanted it"

 

Sounds quite a lot like what a sexual predator would say after taking advantage of someone. "I could tell she wanted me to do it".

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3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

so you believe trump is an all powerful mind reader. i don't really see the point in discussing this with you.

Stop putting words in my posts that clearly are not there.

 

Women make it clear when they are interested, the same as when they are not.  (Of course, I have much more experience in the NOT arena.)

 

But I used to hang with a guy who could walk into a bar, pick out any girl ( or have me do it ) and he'd take her home.  Wasn't rich.  Wasn't too good looking. But he knew what he was doing.  And he wnet home with some of the hottest women on campus.

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Just now, IDWAF said:

Stop putting words in my posts that clearly are not there.

 

Women make it clear when they are interested, the same as when they are not.  (Of course, I have much more experience in the NOT arena.)

 

But I used to hang with a guy who could walk into a bar, pick out any girl ( or have me do it ) and he'd take her home.  Wasn't rich.  Wasn't too good looking. But he knew what he was doing.  And he wnet home with some of the hottest women on campus.

I would hope that the man you reference wouldn't walk up to the girl and grab them by their genitalia before....(wait for it - pun intended) waiting for the woman to tell him it was okay.

 

Going off "looks" and "glances" and assuming consent is wrong. You may be right some of the time, but you are still making an assumption. There should still be a clear "waiting" period to allow the person in question the opportunity to "opt out".

 

What a woman may "want" may different from what you think they "want". They may be flirtatious on the dance floor, they may dance very provocatively with you. That still isn't consent to kiss them, or grab their crotch. When you are "making your moves" you should always do it in a way that allows them the opportunity to "opt out".

 

When you said "I don't even wait" you are implying you aren't giving them that opportunity because you are just assuming it is what they want. That is what a sexual predator does.

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3 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Stop putting words in my posts that clearly are not there.

 

Women make it clear when they are interested, the same as when they are not.  (Of course, I have much more experience in the NOT arena.)

 

But I used to hang with a guy who could walk into a bar, pick out any girl ( or have me do it ) and he'd take her home.  Wasn't rich.  Wasn't too good looking. But he knew what he was doing.  And he wnet home with some of the hottest women on campus.

because so long as you 'know what you're doing' a man can unlocked the secret consent code of any woman in a bar. spare me.

5 minutes ago, bcking said:

"I know she wanted it"

 

Sounds quite a lot like what a sexual predator would say after taking advantage of someone. "I could tell she wanted me to do it".

i mean, depends. what's she wearing? 

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1 minute ago, bcking said:

I would hope that the man you reference wouldn't walk up to the girl and grab them by their genitalia before....(wait for it - pun intended) waiting for the woman to tell him it was okay.

 

Going off "looks" and "glances" and assuming consent is wrong. You may be right some of the time, but you are still making an assumption. There should still be a clear "waiting" period to allow the person in question the opportunity to "opt out".

 

What a woman may "want" may different from what you think they "want". They may be flirtatious on the dance floor, they may dance very provocatively with you. That still isn't consent to kiss them, or grab their crotch. When you are "making your moves" you should always do it in a way that allows them the opportunity to "opt out".

 

When you said "I don't even wait" you are implying you aren't giving them that opportunity because you are just assuming it is what they want. That is what a sexual predator does.

Maybe that's why you and I went home alone most of the time.  But I assure you, my friend did not wait, never went home alone, and I don't think he forced the girls to move in with him the very next day.

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1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

Maybe that's why you and I went home alone most of the time.  But I assure you, my friend did not wait, never went home alone, and I don't think he forced the girls to move in with him the very next day.

You're story has put us slightly off topic. So I'd like to ask again:

 

What, from the woman, does Trump "not wait" for? 

 

It really is an easy question. 

Edited November 17, 2017 by bcking

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1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

Maybe that's why you and I went home alone most of the time.  But I assure you, my friend did not wait, never went home alone, and I don't think he forced the girls to move in with him the very next day.

you have a pretty sad view of women's basic autonomy.

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3 minutes ago, bcking said:

 

When you said "I don't even wait" you are implying you aren't giving them that opportunity because you are just assuming it is what they want. That is what a sexual predator does.

A) I didn't say it

 

2) That's YOUR interpretation of the meaning.  Not waiting for a "proper courtship" perhaps.  Or letting an opportunity go by without taking a chance she may be interested.  Could mean different things in different situations, eh?

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

you have a pretty sad view of women's basic autonomy.

Realistic, actually. 

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5 minutes ago, bcking said:

You're story has put us slightly off topic. So I'd like to ask again:

 

What, from the woman, does Trump "not wait" for? 

 

It really is an easy question. 

That thing that all normal men want from women.

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5 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

A) I didn't say it

 

2) That's YOUR interpretation of the meaning.  Not waiting for a "proper courtship" perhaps.  Or letting an opportunity go by without taking a chance she may be interested.  Could mean different things in different situations, eh?

Realistic, actually. 

Apologies, I meant "When he said", that was a typo.

 

Ah yes...Trump clearly was talking about "proper courtship" procedures when being a lad with his buddy off the air. Is that what mean brag about in "locker room talk"? Not following regular courtship behavior? That is a very reasonable explanation

 

Thanks for at least giving an answer. It was entertaining to say the least.

Edited November 17, 2017 by bcking