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Filed: Other Country: Romania
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Hello Ladies and Gentleman,

 

I have a peculiar situation, I am a US citizen and my spouse is from Romania, she came to the US to visit and had a 3 month period of time on her passport for legal stay, she stayed over that time because applying for adjustment of status took us while so right night she is and illegal alien but we have the paperwork forwarded and we are waiting for a response of approval, unfortunately she had to leave the US before her case got approved, before we received any paperwork or travel authorization....

 

So I guess right now there is not way for her to come back because she is flagged now as person who overstood her legal stay and left US before having any paperwork?

 

I guess all the paperwork and money spent is out the window?

 

Now that she is outside the US and Flagged (I guess?) how could I still get her to come back?

 

DO I need to reapply for one of those Visas for spouse Outside the US? (we got married in the US)

 

Thank you, please include any other  useful information you deem that it would help.

 

Posted

Yes, you will need to apply for CR-1. (Visa for spouse outside the US)

I don't think she will be flagged, because she got married within 90 days and filed paperwork.

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Aug 2011 - Arrived on F1 visa

09/06/2015 Started exchanging messages

10/13/2015 We met in person

07/01/2017 We got engaged!

10/31/2017 We got married!

11/08/2017 AOS Package (I-130, I-485, I-765, I-131) sent via USPS - Chicago Lockbox

                      (Priority Mail - USPS autocorrected zipcode to 60680-4187)

11/12/2017 Package delivered (Delayed due to USPS mistakenly took it to 60624 and Veteran's Day) 

11/13/2017 Received Date (Priority Date)

11/21/2017 Received 4 e-mails & 4 text notifications (01:30 AM EST); checks cashed

11/28/2017 Received 4 NOA1 hard copies

12/09/2017 Received Biometrics Appointment Letter (for i-485 and i-765)

12/21/2017 Biometrics Appointment

01/08/2018 **I-765 and I-131 Approved** (61 days)

01/16/2018 %%Received combo card%% (tracking shows USCIS sent it on Jan 11 from MO, then Jan 15 USPS closed for MLK day) 

01/20/2018 Received approval letters for EAD and AP

09/20/2018 Received text 'Interview was scheduled' and interview notice will be mailed

09/27/2018 Received Interview notice by mail

10/25/2018 Interview day

10/26/2018 I-485 case status updated to "We ordered your new card"

10/29/2018 Case Status updated to "We approved your Form I-485"

10/31/2018 Case Status updated to "We mailed your new card"

11/01/2018 My card was picked up by the USPS with tracking number assigned

11/05/2018 Green Card Received 

 

Side note: I turned my maiden name into second middle name. In the combo card, my given name is First Firstmiddleinitial, however on the back of the card, they attempted to list my second middle name. 

 

My application package:

Interview Experience:

 

 

Filed: Other Country: United Kingdom
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Posted

More details needed for a complete answer but yes, you will need to petition for a spouse visa.

 

I assume she entered the US as a tourist? When did her I-94 expire? When did you file for adjustment?

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

Posted
12 minutes ago, ColoradoBeauty said:

Yes, you will need to apply for CR-1. (Visa for spouse outside the US)

I don't think she will be flagged, because she got married within 90 days and filed paperwork.

90 days does not apply to her because she came in with a tourist visa and not a fiancee visa...

-=ROC & Naturalization Timeline=-

January 25, 2021 - ROC application received

January 22, 2022 - Case transferred

January 16, 2022 - Naturalization application received

April 7, 2023 - ROC and Naturalization Interview

April 20, 2023 - Oath Ceremony scheduled

Posted
Just now, audacieux89 said:

90 days does not apply to her because she came in with a tourist visa and not a fiancee visa...

oopsie please disregard my reply as I wasn't reading carefully. Thank you for correcting.

I guess she will now have to file I-601 waiver?

Spoiler

Aug 2011 - Arrived on F1 visa

09/06/2015 Started exchanging messages

10/13/2015 We met in person

07/01/2017 We got engaged!

10/31/2017 We got married!

11/08/2017 AOS Package (I-130, I-485, I-765, I-131) sent via USPS - Chicago Lockbox

                      (Priority Mail - USPS autocorrected zipcode to 60680-4187)

11/12/2017 Package delivered (Delayed due to USPS mistakenly took it to 60624 and Veteran's Day) 

11/13/2017 Received Date (Priority Date)

11/21/2017 Received 4 e-mails & 4 text notifications (01:30 AM EST); checks cashed

11/28/2017 Received 4 NOA1 hard copies

12/09/2017 Received Biometrics Appointment Letter (for i-485 and i-765)

12/21/2017 Biometrics Appointment

01/08/2018 **I-765 and I-131 Approved** (61 days)

01/16/2018 %%Received combo card%% (tracking shows USCIS sent it on Jan 11 from MO, then Jan 15 USPS closed for MLK day) 

01/20/2018 Received approval letters for EAD and AP

09/20/2018 Received text 'Interview was scheduled' and interview notice will be mailed

09/27/2018 Received Interview notice by mail

10/25/2018 Interview day

10/26/2018 I-485 case status updated to "We ordered your new card"

10/29/2018 Case Status updated to "We approved your Form I-485"

10/31/2018 Case Status updated to "We mailed your new card"

11/01/2018 My card was picked up by the USPS with tracking number assigned

11/05/2018 Green Card Received 

 

Side note: I turned my maiden name into second middle name. In the combo card, my given name is First Firstmiddleinitial, however on the back of the card, they attempted to list my second middle name. 

 

My application package:

Interview Experience:

 

 

Posted

Yes she will be flagged as overstaying because she went past the 3 month time she was given on her I-94...

 

You will have to petition for her as a spouse. There may be questions regarding overstaying and you just have to answer those questions honestly.

 

Did she use VWP or a tourist visa? If under VWP, she cannot use that anymore. She can apply for a tourist visa but result of that depends on the CO if approved.

 

If she overstayed using a tourist visa, consequences will be more serious. More than 180 days overstay will result in a 3 year ban. Overstaying for more than a year will result in a 10 year ban. 

 

Review the application form for CR-1 to know what info will be asked of you regarding overstaying and bans.

-=ROC & Naturalization Timeline=-

January 25, 2021 - ROC application received

January 22, 2022 - Case transferred

January 16, 2022 - Naturalization application received

April 7, 2023 - ROC and Naturalization Interview

April 20, 2023 - Oath Ceremony scheduled

Posted
6 minutes ago, ColoradoBeauty said:

oopsie please disregard my reply as I wasn't reading carefully. Thank you for correcting.

I guess she will now have to file I-601 waiver?

I don't think OP's spouse will be eligible because applicant must be phsically present in the U.S. to file the I-601 waiver application

-=ROC & Naturalization Timeline=-

January 25, 2021 - ROC application received

January 22, 2022 - Case transferred

January 16, 2022 - Naturalization application received

April 7, 2023 - ROC and Naturalization Interview

April 20, 2023 - Oath Ceremony scheduled

Posted
9 minutes ago, audacieux89 said:

I don't think OP's spouse will be eligible because applicant must be phsically present in the U.S. to file the I-601 waiver application

Obviously I'm super newbie here and need to do a lot of reading. Thank you for clarifying.

Spoiler

Aug 2011 - Arrived on F1 visa

09/06/2015 Started exchanging messages

10/13/2015 We met in person

07/01/2017 We got engaged!

10/31/2017 We got married!

11/08/2017 AOS Package (I-130, I-485, I-765, I-131) sent via USPS - Chicago Lockbox

                      (Priority Mail - USPS autocorrected zipcode to 60680-4187)

11/12/2017 Package delivered (Delayed due to USPS mistakenly took it to 60624 and Veteran's Day) 

11/13/2017 Received Date (Priority Date)

11/21/2017 Received 4 e-mails & 4 text notifications (01:30 AM EST); checks cashed

11/28/2017 Received 4 NOA1 hard copies

12/09/2017 Received Biometrics Appointment Letter (for i-485 and i-765)

12/21/2017 Biometrics Appointment

01/08/2018 **I-765 and I-131 Approved** (61 days)

01/16/2018 %%Received combo card%% (tracking shows USCIS sent it on Jan 11 from MO, then Jan 15 USPS closed for MLK day) 

01/20/2018 Received approval letters for EAD and AP

09/20/2018 Received text 'Interview was scheduled' and interview notice will be mailed

09/27/2018 Received Interview notice by mail

10/25/2018 Interview day

10/26/2018 I-485 case status updated to "We ordered your new card"

10/29/2018 Case Status updated to "We approved your Form I-485"

10/31/2018 Case Status updated to "We mailed your new card"

11/01/2018 My card was picked up by the USPS with tracking number assigned

11/05/2018 Green Card Received 

 

Side note: I turned my maiden name into second middle name. In the combo card, my given name is First Firstmiddleinitial, however on the back of the card, they attempted to list my second middle name. 

 

My application package:

Interview Experience:

 

 

Filed: Other Country: Romania
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Posted
8 hours ago, MacUK said:

More details needed for a complete answer but yes, you will need to petition for a spouse visa.

 

I assume she entered the US as a tourist? When did her I-94 expire? When did you file for adjustment?

she came with VWP and stood over 90 days, she left just now last Friday. We got married and filed for adjustment after those 90 days of legal stay but before 180 days or staying over.

Filed: Other Country: Romania
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Posted
21 hours ago, audacieux89 said:

Yes she will be flagged as overstaying because she went past the 3 month time she was given on her I-94...

 

You will have to petition for her as a spouse. There may be questions regarding overstaying and you just have to answer those questions honestly.

 

Did she use VWP or a tourist visa? If under VWP, she cannot use that anymore. She can apply for a tourist visa but result of that depends on the CO if approved.

 

If she overstayed using a tourist visa, consequences will be more serious. More than 180 days overstay will result in a 3 year ban. Overstaying for more than a year will result in a 10 year ban. 

 

Review the application form for CR-1 to know what info will be asked of you regarding overstaying and bans.

She used VWP but left back to Romania before those 180 days, can she still come back? there many version of this overstaying rule which quite don`t really understand.

 

So after 90 days of legal stay, you depart within 180 days you get a 3 year ban?  Because some people say that after day 90 of legal stay you are fine to come back for another 180 days and only if you leave after day 180 you will get a 3 year ban (which does not make sense because that would mean you have 270 days of legal stay) and if you stay past your 90 days of  legal stay with one full year and then depart, that's when you get a 10 year ban.

 

 

Filed: Other Country: United Kingdom
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Posted
1 hour ago, Peter.Dvs said:

She used VWP but left back to Romania before those 180 days, can she still come back? there many version of this overstaying rule which quite don`t really understand.

 

So after 90 days of legal stay, you depart within 180 days you get a 3 year ban?  Because some people say that after day 90 of legal stay you are fine to come back for another 180 days and only if you leave after day 180 you will get a 3 year ban (which does not make sense because that would mean you have 270 days of legal stay) and if you stay past your 90 days of  legal stay with one full year and then depart, that's when you get a 10 year ban.

 

 

The 3 year ban comes in after 180 days overstay, 10 year ban after 1 years overstay.

Overstaying less than 180 days means there's no ban but her days of using VWP are over forever

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Peter.Dvs said:

She used VWP but left back to Romania before those 180 days, can she still come back? there many version of this overstaying rule which quite don`t really understand.

 

So after 90 days of legal stay, you depart within 180 days you get a 3 year ban?  Because some people say that after day 90 of legal stay you are fine to come back for another 180 days and only if you leave after day 180 you will get a 3 year ban (which does not make sense because that would mean you have 270 days of legal stay) and if you stay past your 90 days of  legal stay with one full year and then depart, that's when you get a 10 year ban.

 

 

She cannot use the VWP anymore because she went over the allowed time. She overstayed her VWP.

She will need to apply for a tourist visa to enter the US again. File the CR1/IR1 petition...she may be able to visit you while that is in progress if she has a tourist visa.

 

She does not have a ban since you said she left before the 180 day count.

Edited by audacieux89

-=ROC & Naturalization Timeline=-

January 25, 2021 - ROC application received

January 22, 2022 - Case transferred

January 16, 2022 - Naturalization application received

April 7, 2023 - ROC and Naturalization Interview

April 20, 2023 - Oath Ceremony scheduled

Filed: Other Country: Romania
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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, NigeriaorBust said:

  When you filed for adjustment you submitted the I130 already so that is in progress,  you need to tell them that she is changed to a consular interview.

I understand, but that also means we would be apart a very a long time, I think it would be better to cancel this petition and then I will travel to Romania and forward new paperwork with DCF, it would be the quickest way, don`t you think?

Edited by Peter.Dvs
 
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