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Ukraine: Is military record required for EB visa?

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Filed: EB-2 Visa Country: Ukraine
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Hi everyone,

 

The guidelines for civil documents are kinda vague on military records:

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If you served in the military of any country, you must obtain a photocopy of your military record.

I have never served in the military, and I don't have any military record document—neither the conscription certificate, nor the military book. Do I have to obtain one even if I didn't serve, or I can get a visa without it?

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1 minute ago, artml said:

Hi everyone,

 

The guidelines for civil documents are kinda vague on military records:

I have never served in the military, and I don't have any military record document—neither the conscription certificate, nor the military book. Do I have to obtain one even if I didn't serve, or I can get a visa without it?

What is EB visa? 

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Filed: EB-2 Visa Country: Ukraine
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Employment-based visa (EB3 specifically).

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☑ PERM approved – November 14, 2017

☑ I-140 filed with PP – January 30, 2018 

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☑ I-140 sent to NVC – March 19

NVC case number issued – May 17

NVC Scan Date – June 11

NVC Case Complete – June 14

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21 minutes ago, artml said:

I have never served in the military, and I don't have any military record document—neither the conscription certificate, nor the military book. Do I have to obtain one even if I didn't serve, or I can get a visa without it?

Military records are only required if you actually served in the military. Coming from a country with universal conscription, though, you'll be expected to explain (and likely prove) why you didn't serve.

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23 minutes ago, broppy said:

Coming from a country with universal conscription, though, you'll be expected to explain (and likely prove) why you didn't serve.

I forgot to add: if you're female, there's not much to explain - generally, only Ukrainian men are required to serve.

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34 minutes ago, artml said:

Hi everyone,

 

The guidelines for civil documents are kinda vague on military records:

I have never served in the military, and I don't have any military record document—neither the conscription certificate, nor the military book. Do I have to obtain one even if I didn't serve, or I can get a visa without it?

Almost every male in Ukraine does have a military record. 

 

First - it kept by school you attended. If I'm not mistaken, at age 14 or 16 all boys are going through medical exam, which pre-determines if there are any health issues and a boy is qualified to serve. Or not. 

All records are kept  by school AND by local Military Office. 

 

Then the "algorithm" keeps going, and  depends on where you go after school - college, university and etc.

If you move to a different town/city, you are required to get your military record from the local office at the place you leave and within a certain time to bring it in to a military office at the place you move. 

 

If you didn't serve (which is completely possible due to a health issues or you have not been called to do so yet), there is still a military record of you. It's called registration military certificate (pripisnoe svidetel'stvo). 

So, you just need to figure out which military office has it.

 

And yes, I believe you may be asked for the certificate during your interview at the US Embassy. 

 

Good luck

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Filed: EB-2 Visa Country: Ukraine
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Thanks everyone for your advices!

 

Looks like I should obtain my record from the local military office, as it appears to be a lesser hassle than having to explain to NVC/visa officer why I don’t have one.

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☑ Started the whole thing – December 13, 2016

☑ PWD request filed – January 19, 2017 

☑ PWD issued – April 7

☑ PERM certification filed – July 18

☑ PERM approved – November 14, 2017

☑ I-140 filed with PP – January 30, 2018 

☑ I-140 approved – February 27

☑ I-140 sent to NVC – March 19

NVC case number issued – May 17

NVC Scan Date – June 11

NVC Case Complete – June 14

☑ Interview scheduled – July 16

☑ Medical exam – July 17

☑ Interview completed – August 21

☑ Visa received – August 27

☐ Touch down – September 28

 

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