Open Border Tragedies Caused by Visa Lottery System

[smilesammich 10,727]

i'm having a really hard time taking the op seriously, they don't even know what open borders are considering we're nowhere near having them..

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

4 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

Good point on how important it is to control our borders

[Dashinka 24,793]

4 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

The article very clearly states it is an opinion piece. It also very clearly states that the opinions belong to the author and not The Hill. 

 

It happens to be an opinion I feel is wrong. We should encourage people to come to this country.

Aren’t pretty much all media pieces opinions now days?

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Aren’t pretty much all media pieces opinions now days?

 

What publications do you subscribe to? Do you normally check your sources?

 

[Dashinka 24,793]

4 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

What publications do you subscribe to? Do you normally check your sources?

 

No, but I can recognize when something is written that contains the underlying opinion of the writer.

[CaliCat 3,957]

4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

No, but I can recognize when something is written that contains the underlying opinion of the writer.

 

What publications fo you subscribe to?

 

[Dashinka 24,793]

37 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

What publications fo you subscribe to?

 

The only publication I subscribe to is WSJ and even that publication has hard news stories that are peppered with opinion both left and right.  I also see this on most of the other mainstream media outlets whether print or broadcast.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

My doctor has over 10 years of secondary education.  Gets about 90 bucks for office visit plus co-pay. I wish he could do plumbing. Would save me some $$$

Dad was a  plumber. A hard worker and smart man but nowhere near the training and accountability that medicine entails. He said a plumber need to remember two things: ####### runs downhill and paydays on Thursday.

[CaliCat 3,957]

12 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Dad was a  plumber. A hard worker and smart man but nowhere near the training and accountability that medicine entails. He said a plumber need to remember two things: ####### runs downhill and paydays on Thursday.

 

 

Still does, especially on Capitol Hill... 

Edited November 14, 2017 by CaliCat

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Aren’t pretty much all media pieces opinions now days?

When an article says Opinion we understand that not everything in that article is an established fact. Also The Hill is good about publishing other voices, but that does not lend their credibility to guest writers opinion.

 

I thought we all learned that with the weekly reader in 5th grade. The gaps in critical analysis are astounding.

 

Edited November 14, 2017 by Il Mango Dulce

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

52 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Dad was a  plumber. A hard worker and smart man but nowhere near the training and accountability that medicine entails. He said a plumber need to remember two things: ####### runs downhill and paydays on Thursday.

I agree, but my point was 90 bucks to see a person for 20 mins that has 12 years + education is not INMHO a lot of money

[bcking 3,157]

24 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I agree, but my point was 90 bucks to see a person for 20 mins that has 12 years + education is not INMHO a lot of money

Also remember that they put more than those 20 minutes in. Maybe 5-10 more for documentation unless they do it while talking to you, in which case they are considered "impersonal" because they are typing on the computer while you talk.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 minute ago, bcking said:

Also remember that they put more than those 20 minutes in. Maybe 5-10 more for documentation unless they do it while talking to you, in which case they are considered "impersonal" because they are typing on the computer while you talk.

Not to mention the 10 interactions with the insurance company trying to get my drug approved 

[Dashinka 24,793]

57 minutes ago, bcking said:

Also remember that they put more than those 20 minutes in. Maybe 5-10 more for documentation unless they do it while talking to you, in which case they are considered "impersonal" because they are typing on the computer while you talk.

We were referred to an orthopedist, saw him for 5 minutes, and he charged us $700+.  Seems a bit excessive to me even if he did take an additional 10-15 minutes looking at an MRI.

[bcking 3,157]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

We were referred to an orthopedist, saw him for 5 minutes, and he charged us $700+.  Seems a bit excessive to me even if he did take an additional 10-15 minutes looking at an MRI.

Yep

 

In the grand scheme that is peanuts in our NHE, but it definitely factors into a shortage of GP's. The training to be an orthopod may be longer and more exhausting, but that doesn't make it worth the inflated salary. Especially for orthopedics, which isn't much different that carpentry. I scrubbed in on those procedures in medical school. They aren't technically challenging. They aren't like vascular surgery, pediatric CT surgery, or neurosurgery (brain, the spine stuff also isn't very challenging).