Joint sponsor - Affidavit of Support

[Kshag 0]

Hi, everyone,
I have a question and you might not know how to reply, but still I think I should try.
About the Joint Sponsor, have you known people that got approved by this method? Do you know if in the interview they ask further questions about the status of the petitioner that couldn't sponsor by himself? I ask because my husband to be is in a complicated situation. Not because he is a bad person, but because he lost everything in his previous relationship. He owes child support, and the system has trapped him in a vicious cycle where he can't work on books, otherwise he can't survive. And I know I have great chances to help him in many ways, but for that we need to get married and I will need to get a work permit to start working and saving money. My concern is, if the people in charge don't approve because of fear that he is a deadbeat which isn't the truth. I'm really afraid, because this is the only way I can think to help us to be together and solve this problem of his. I'm fully aware this is a very specific and complicated case and I know what most people think about it, but we really love each other, and he loves his daughter more than anything. Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you very much!

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

if he is working under the table he is trying to avoid child support and alimony

in some states here not showing you are working to support your children can land you in jail for unpaid child support

think about this / you do not know their situation for marriage and divorce / only his side

what if you were able to marry and come to the US and he does this to you?

his obligation first of all is to the child from the other marriage and if, as you say. he loves his daughter, he needs  to do more to prove it like work at a tax paying, ss paying, medicare paying (for his future) real job

it may be a strain on his income to pay but he is court ordered 

and unless he was a real jerk he should not have lost everything in a divorce / joint property would have been split

How would he have the money to come viist and marry you?

joint sponsorship is often used 

yes, this is harsh but i want to point out the situation for you could be a disaster and very painful for you

Edited November 13, 2017 by adil-rafa

[Kshag 0]

Yes, I do understand your point of view, but knowing him I came to know an even more scary true about child support issues and how the family court tear apart families. He never married his ex, she took everything from him and doesn't let him see their daughter. She has (I know this, for I did my own research, I'm no idiot) a bunch of children from different guys, and lives from child support money solely. His family practically abandoned him, he has no ways to make it by himself. By default the court gives full custody to the mother (rare cases are when the court understands both parents). If you want to inform yourself about this reality I highly recommend you to do some research about child support and parent alienation. Anyways, we don't want to have children, so it won't happen. He stated his situation since the beginning and said he understands if I don't want to be with him because of this, and he already said that if I can't accept his child he cannot accept me, which I find important, because it means he really cares about his child. The point is, the government doesn't give a chance to him to be on his feet, and the only thing we want is to be together so that we can solve this problem. I've never heard about a similar case, that's why I'm here.

[Boiler 46,323]

The obvious solution would be for him to move, does he have a Passport?

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No, unfortunately he doesn't have a passport. And even if he had he wouldn't leave his country and his daughter. He had/has a tough life, and me on the contrary (I'm not rich, but I'm in a better condition than he) speak 3 languages and have a degree, I could work on the books if only we married and I had a work permit. But it seems nearly impossible. Sounds dramatic, and I hate drama, but this is the reality.

[Boiler 46,323]

Sounds like you are much better situated and you need to focus on him moving, not that he can see his daughter anyway.

[Kshag 0]

At this point I´m not sure what is the best option. Because it´ll put him in an even worse situation, right? Like, he aready owes Child Support, he doesn´t want to be seen as someone running away and abandoning his child. Ugh, so complicated. I´m sorry to bring this up, fiance visas are supposed to make couples happy. 

[Boiler 46,323]

I do not see how ANYBODY would think he was abandoning a child he can not see. 

 

One mile or one thousand miles away, the end result is the same.

[Kshag 0]

The problem is he coming here illegally, but I get your point. In any scenario there´ll be barriers. I just wish I figure out a less problematic way.

[Boiler 46,323]

Nobody is suggesting going anywhere illegally, undocumented would be the correct term.

 

Apart from anything else it would be against the VJ ToS.

[Kshag 0]

Of course. I´m against any illegal act. Just wondering if in the interview they ask further questions regarding why the petitioner can't afford the fiance.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

Some thoughts on this - sometimes with back due child support they will refuse to issue a passport.  From what I see online that amount is $2500.  I don't know how often this is actually enforced.

 

Yes, they might ask questions.  My husband was asked questions about why I was not working to sort of suss out whether it would be a public charge issue.  Our joint sponsor made over 10x the requirements for that year, so it really was about me.  So, that would be the grounds for denial, if there were any.  In my recollection, I have seen cases approved on here with the petition owing back due child support.  The not working or not reporting income (especially this) is the bigger problem, but isn't going to be the nail in the coffin of your immigration journey.

 

As a mother of a child whose father refuses to get a real job despite an extensive education (perhaps because he doesn't want to pay child support, but perhaps other reasons), I can tell you it only hurt the child.  When you have children, most of your income goes to their upkeep - food, utilities, having a bigger car/house, clothes/toys, education, healthcare, etc.  My 9 year old daughter eats more than my 6'6" husband.  Seriously.

[Boiler 46,323]

I know somebody who had it enforced, if he owes that much then he has bigger issues. Makes you wonder if the US is the place to be.

[Kshag 0]

Hi, Nola, yes, the priority is the child. I'm sorry to hear about that, but I assure you this is not the case. In fact, for 3 years he was the only one taking care of the child AND paying the child support, while the so called mother wouldn`t show up for days, spending money and doing all the wrong things. I even saw prints of conversations between my boyfriend and his 'ex mother in law' (commas for he wasn´t married to the girl), and she admits that she's sorry but she has no control over the girl. Not allowing him to see the child doesn´t make money. But this, neither the system understands. Suspending driver´s license, putting in jail those who don´t have condition to pay child support AND survive doesn´t solve things. It´s heartbreaking to see news about parent alienation.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

1 minute ago, Kshag said:

Hi, Nola, yes, the priority is the child. I'm sorry to hear about that, but I assure you this is not the case. In fact, for 3 years he was the only one taking care of the child AND paying the child support, while the so called mother wouldn`t show up for days, spending money and doing all the wrong things. I even saw prints of conversations between my boyfriend and his 'ex mother in law' (commas for he wasn´t married to the girl), and she admits that she's sorry but she has no control over the girl. Not allowing him to see the child doesn´t make money. But this, neither the system understands. Suspending driver´s license, putting in jail those who don´t have condition to pay child support AND survive doesn´t solve things. It´s heartbreaking to see news about parent alienation.

 

You don't need to justify it, but the only way to solve the issue is to have the court modify the support order or modify the custody agreement.  Else than that, he isn't in compliance with the court and it really doesn't matter why.  That is what happens when you have unprotected sex.