Visa B1-B2 (merged)

[nano 1]

Hello evryone

my second question is 

i got my visa refusal last year i was student and  this time i got work so i wanna apply for this visa B1-B2 for meet my fiancé so if i file my ds160 i should be show them i ll meet my fiancé or just apply for visa and not show them that advice me please how can convince a consul to approve my visa B1/B2 plese give me some advice

Edited November 10, 2017 by Penguin_ie

[ColoradoBeauty 79]

Tourist visa is a non-immigrant intent visa. To get approved, you have to show strong ties to home country, solid itinerary, money to support your visit, etc. Hope the discussion below would help

 

[geowrian 22,338]

What has changed since your last visa refusal? You can try again with just a new job, but I'm doubtful it will make the difference.

 

You aren't required to disclose that you have a US fiancee, but it very likely will come out in the interview via the questioning.

[nano 1]

thank you 

last year i got my   visitor visa refusal , i don't know why maybe as i was a student and not enough money for travel in usa .but now i got work and since april 2017 so i would like to apply this time my new visa visitor B1/B2 because my socio-professional it's change coz i m employe now .so how can i convince a consul i ll leave usa before my visa expired and how convince him i m going to usa for pleasure 
and nother way i have brother live in new york so what you think if i make in ds160 i ll go to see my brother but ill make hotel address not his home address 
and it's good idea if i add in ds 160 ill go to see my fiancé or not 
explian me i need help

[nano 1]

Hello
I applied my visa visitor in last year ago , sadly my visa was refused
a consul ask me a question like this
- where are youw going i said Wisconsin city he replay his question where are you going me i said Wisconsin he said Wisconsin it's city but you where excatly you going i said madison  and i made 7 day si ll stay in wisconsin city 
-and he ask me what is you doing in life i said im apprentice student he said what you satdy i said human ressources he said where you doing your apprentiship i sai din compagny of mangement 
-he find some stamp of vis afrance in my passport he said why embassy of france refused your visa i said i don't know 
so he gave me a green letter and said we can't give you visa visitor 
is this case i applied in novermber 2016 and now i wishti reapply this visa B1/B2.I wanna you to show me how i ll convince a consul despite i have change in my socio-professionel last year i was student and apprentice and now i have work and i work in compagny where i was doing my apprenticeship 
as my socio profesional change 
so tell how convince a consul 
i have brother there live in usa so can tell a consul i will go visiting my brother 
please more information 

[geowrian 22,338]

35 minutes ago, nano said:

last year i got my   visitor visa refusal , i don't know why maybe as i was a student and not enough money for travel in usa .but now i got work and since april 2017 so i would like to apply this time my new visa visitor B1/B2 because my socio-professional it's change coz i m employe now .so how can i convince a consul i ll leave usa before my visa expired and how convince him i m going to usa for pleasure 

They likely refused you under 214(b) - immigrant intent. While your situation has changed, I would not be convinced that it's enough of a change. But that's just me...you are free to try again.

 

A letter from your employer stating when you are expected back to work would be the evidence to bring with you. The CO may or may not look at it, but it's better to have it than not have it.

 

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and nother way i have brother live in new york so what you think if i make in ds160 i ll go to see my brother but ill make hotel address not his home address 
and it's good idea if i add in ds 160 ill go to see my fiancé or not

If your visit is primarily to see your fiancee, then do not claim that your visit is to see somebody else. That is misrepresentation and can make your situation much worse...especially since I know you are considering a K-1 from your other thread. They keep records of every visa application and check them...it won't make sense to say you're visiting your brother and then later file a K-1 and say you spent the time with your fiancee. The story doesn't add up and it will quickly unravel.

 

Be 100% honest...there are very serious consequences for misrepresentation, including a permanent bar.

CBP may call the US contact sometimes as well.

Edited November 10, 2017 by geowrian

[NYCruiser 423]

14 minutes ago, nano said:

Hello
I applied my visa visitor in last year ago , sadly my visa was refused
a consul ask me a question like this
- where are youw going i said Wisconsin city he replay his question where are you going me i said Wisconsin he said Wisconsin it's city but you where excatly you going i said madison  and i made 7 day si ll stay in wisconsin city 
-and he ask me what is you doing in life i said im apprentice student he said what you satdy i said human ressources he said where you doing your apprentiship i sai din compagny of mangement 
-he find some stamp of vis afrance in my passport he said why embassy of france refused your visa i said i don't know 
so he gave me a green letter and said we can't give you visa visitor 
is this case i applied in novermber 2016 and now i wishti reapply this visa B1/B2.I wanna you to show me how i ll convince a consul despite i have change in my socio-professionel last year i was student and apprentice and now i have work and i work in compagny where i was doing my apprenticeship 
as my socio profesional change 
so tell how convince a consul 
i have brother there live in usa so can tell a consul i will go visiting my brother 
please more information 

Sounds like you are Country shopping? Your brother being in the USA does not help you. Plus you very short work experience is not of relevance

 

Also, don't Algerians speak French? How could you not know why you got refused? 

[Boiler 46,086]

If the intent is for your Fiancee to move to you then show that, whatever arrangements have been made.

[blooms 63]

I mean you can always try... no one knows what the outcome will be unless you try. good luck

[nano 1]

Hello

i wanna reapply my visa visitor this time .but i wanna put in Ds160 i have brother live USA so  i don't will go to him i ll make hotel address it's that will make me problem in my interview because my brother live in texas and me im going to new york  .

I have refused my visa vistor last year but i was apprentice that mean i work and study in same time so where i was doing my apprenticeship in compagny i was recruit because i was graduat and i had good level so now i have work 

i think my socio professional was change because i have work and i have a bank account i started t my apprentice since 2013 and i finish my apprentice in 2016 and i got work in same compagny in 2017 so i wsih you to advice me how can i convince a consul to approve me my visa vistor 

another question 

if i get my visa vistor b1b2 i can get marry there with american citizen 

[geowrian 22,338]

Please stick to one thread. Thank you.

[janet3 1,170]

Okay... I am going to try this again  (since you have started an additional thread and didn't continue the one from yesterday).

The possibilities of you receiving a b1b2 visa is slim. At this point, you actually have MORE ties to the US than Algeria  (your brother lives here and your girlfriend). In 2016 only 6% of visitor visas were given to people from Africa (and there were only 75 K1 visas given in Algeria).

So....let's get down to your plan..you are going to say you are visiting your brother in Texas but you are actually staying in New York....that is lying about your address. The DS160 asks for your destination address.

Your next question...if you can marry here on a b1b2 visa....yes, you can....but you will need to go back to Algeria before the visa expires and apply for the CR1. 

If I am incorrect @geowrian can correct me.

On a personal note  (just my opinion) you seem desperate to get to the US. And it irritates me. 

I have spent a year and a half in a real relationship with someone from Algeria...he will be arriving in the US next week.

 

[geowrian 22,338]

All good points. And as stated in one of his other 4 threads on this exact subject...lying about his purpose for the visit may jeopardize the K-1 he wants to pursue.

[janet3 1,170]

3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

All good points. And as stated in one of his other 4 threads on this exact subject...lying about his purpose for the visit may jeopardize the K-1 he wants to pursue.

Thank you. Ugh....I agree completely!

Anyone that seems to be circumventing the process infuriates me....

I have stressed through this process for 10 months now 

[TBoneTX 46,109]

Two unanswered duplicate threads have been removed.

At least two similar threads with answers have been merged.

Nano, use this thread for all discussion about your issue.