Are we making things harder for each other or would you say this is far more logical?!

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

All I'm saying is that for every good story, there is a bad story.

Plenty of people got denied entry (I personally know a couple - all VWP passports) because of this.

Be book-smart, but sometimes you have to be a little street-smart too.

What is the purpose of your visit? I am visiting my boyfriend for the holidays (which is not a lie).

Otherwise be prepared to bring plenty of evidence that unequivocally proves your strong ties to the UK. 

[EmilyW 1,443]

Lie to immigration and be prepared for the consequences. The size of the lie is irrelevant: once they catch you out, you are - from there on in - a person willing to engage in deception for gain.  They won't trust a word you say.

[TBoneTX 45,333]

OP, do not LIE -- ever -- at any point during the immigration (or visiting) process.

 

The poster who has recommended evasion and deception is fortunate to avoid (so far) administrative action for violation of this provision of the site's Terms of Service:

"Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method."

Edited November 10, 2017 by TBoneTX

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

Don't think that just because you are telling the truth you will be admitted, no problem. That's called being naïve.

Understand that this is a very gray area and you will be at the mercy of a particular immigration officer. And yes, there is the risk you won't be admitted.

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

3 minutes ago, EmilyW said:

Lie to immigration and be prepared for the consequences. The size of the lie is irrelevant: once they catch you out, you are - from there on in - a person willing to engage in deception for gain.  They won't trust a word you say.

What consequences? How would they know what she is going to do during her visit?

You guys are being paranoid and naïve.

All I said is that she will be frowned upon (with the concrete risk of being denied entry), and that's just a fact.

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

7 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

OP, do not LIE -- ever -- at any point during the immigration (or visiting) process.

 

The poster who has recommended evasion and deception is fortunate to avoid (so far) administrative action for violation of this provision of the site's Terms of Service:

"Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method."

And how did I instruct, directly or indirectly, to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities? She has legal title to get into the US and she intends to leave timely.

I just gave her a tip for the POE (based on real life, which happens).

Edited November 10, 2017 by Italian_in_NYC

[EmilyW 1,443]

The consequences of lying to immigration which can include bans.  Not sure if you're aware of the statutes that legislate against such behavior?

 

Edited November 10, 2017 by EmilyW

[Unlockable 7,314]

@Italian_in_NYC,

 

You are wrong! Check out the thread below. Every day people come to the US to see their fiance/boyfriend and even TELL the border officer so.

 

Lying about it to an immigration official  is illegal. They should just be truthful.

 

 

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

3 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

@Italian_in_NYC,

 

You are wrong! Check out the thread below. Every day people come to the US to see their fiance/boyfriend and even TELL the border officer so.

 

Lying about it to an immigration official  is illegal. They should just be truthful.

 

 

This thread is for people who already started the fiancé visa process, which shows good intent.

[TBoneTX 45,333]

Administrative action has been applied for wanton, continuous disregard of this provision of the site's Terms of Service:  "Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method."

 

TBoneTX

VJ Moderation

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

1 hour ago, Italian_in_NYC said:

All I'm saying is that for every good story, there is a bad story.

Plenty of people got denied entry (I personally know a couple - all VWP passports) because of this.

Be book-smart, but sometimes you have to be a little street-smart too.

What is the purpose of your visit? I am visiting my boyfriend for the holidays (which is not a lie).

Otherwise be prepared to bring plenty of evidence that unequivocally proves your strong ties to the UK. 

And if they go through her phone and/or suitcase and find anything that contradicts this she will immediately have put themselves in a misrep situation. Your advise is horrible.

[R&OC 371]

Please don't be tempted into lying or avoiding the truth when being asked. I travelled to the US when I was engaged and what I did is to collect a folder showing my binding ties to my country of residence - I specifically carry my employment contract, rental agreement if you have one, ongoing and whatever shows you are still fully integrated in your country and planning to go back). I never had an issue!

[kris&me 572]

Why not do it before the end of the year for the IRS tax retruns as he could do A W7 and with copy of marriage certificte and your birth certificate, Claim you on 2017 taxes

no office is open New Years Day

[hm139 55]

If you want to get married in order to do CR-1 instead of K1 then why don't you just get married in the beneficiary's country? That would make it rather easier. if you want family in US to be present you can always have a symbolic ceremony later.

Edited November 10, 2017 by hm139

[Eric & Idalia 56]

I think what both sides were saying is true. Do not volunteer information. Provide info if you are asked.

 

In 2015 my husband (US citizen) filed a petition for a CR1 visa for me before he came back to US from Mexico. A friend of mine was going to get married just a week after my husband moved back to US so I was going to come. I came and was very nervous because the CR1 visa was in process and I had the opportunity to schedule the interview by then, but decided to spend more time with my family and save money. I told the officer I came to a friend's wedding. I didn't volunteer information as I was told here in VJ and I had no problem in CBP.

 

I understand what Italian_in_NYC  was saying because once in 2014 I drove into US to visit my host family (I was their au pair 2011-2013) and when my mom, aunt and I went to get the I-94 permission, the officer asked for the address where we were going to stay. I said it several times and he didn't seem to get it so I showed him my New Mexico driver license where the address was listed. Well he made a big problem about it and started yelling "Why you have an American ID?" I explained to him I had been an au pair and needed the license to drive my host kids around. He was rude and didn't want to give me the I-94 until his supervisor came and I explained again. The supervisor told him to give me the permission. My husband was waiting for us in the car. Imagine if he had known that my husband was a US citizen and we both were crossing to US to together. I think he wouldn't have let me come into US. Also need to point out that there may be different for people from Mexico and South America.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Eric & Idalia