and it's Tuesday

[Aymerlu 3]

Amerylu, you are innocent, don't worry.

I for one know that you're not looking for trouble!

LOL Sarah....with the day I've had you never know

[mybackpages 0]

Sarah does not cause trouble on this board. period.

That is a matter of opinion and not all will agree.

Yep, that's what is, nothing more nothing less.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Excellent post, Jackie. Full of grace, something in short supply here.

Well thank you for the words of support. I changed my avatar pic, because I want to put a face to a name. I think if we knew each other a little better, it might not be so easy to say hurtful things. We are all couples going thru an adjustment of being married to someone from a different country. Our SO's are not from Mars! They are just from across the water and they are no different from American men. Culturally there are differences, but most of us embrace the differences of food, religion and customs and adapt that to fit our marriages. Underneath their skin, they are just men, and they all want a few things in life to make them happy, a good woman, food when they are hungry, a soft bed to sleep in and clean clothes after their shower. Nothing difficult there.

I find more stability in an older woman/younger man dynamic. What concerns me is the youngsters in our group that think they will never get old. That is disturbing. They should pay more attention to their men and not be so concerned what us old ladies are doing. Let me put it this way, they could learn a thing or two about marriage as most of the geriatric crowd has been married a time or two. Learn from our experiences and previous failures instead of trying to make us feel bad with your bitter words.

I have had someone on this forum go as far as to say I should leave my husband because SOMEDAY he might want children. Is that not the craziest thing you have ever heard? To break up because of what MIGHT happen? I'm not that insecure in my marriage. If Mohammed left me for another, there is a senior citizen cruise with my name on it. Wouldn't be the end of my life. Just another chapter. But I can't sacrifice these good years with him for speculation.

Gross, in your eyes, not mine. Abnormal, I find spewing garbage at strangers on a forum abnormal. Sick, that takes it just too far.

Jackie

Sarah does not cause trouble on this board. period.

That is a matter of opinion and not all will agree.

I remember making fun of "gross and abnormal" with brnidokiegurl, only to be attacked as "bringing up the past". Hekk, doodle's right, it's in our face and not everyone thinks it's funny. Personally, I wil continue to say what I think, and, since my opinions are more often not "mainstream" as far as this board goes, I will continue to be attacked. However, when ther are some who believe they can say WHATEVER they want about others and call it merely an opinion, they need to be willing to let opinions they don't like be expressed without attack, or be willing to get as good as they give.

That's the bottom line.

Well this has been one heckofa Tuesday thread eh? I think more topics where covered today than in any other daily thread. I'm still trying to figure out why it was posted that I spoke ill of someone though. I tend to bite my tongue on many topics here. Beleive me, if I really spoke my mind, it would probably blow the VJ server! Anywho.....ya'll are great! I'm closing out this Tuesday and going to bed!

You refered to the Egypt thread and how it was full of "crapola". My response was in regard to that because you made the same comment on the Egypt thread.

However, I never spoke ill of you as you stated. I think we all know how many members stand on the issue being addressed in that thread. Everyone debating on how they feel and it goes round and round. I think I've read pages and pages of different threads stating the same facts. I'm not judging anyone for what they did/did not do regarding that matter. It's not mine or anyone elses place to judge. God will be the judge of that, no one else. I think threads can be referred back to as reference, but why load up other threads with the same ol.

I never stated that you spoke ill of me. The reaction on the Egypt thread to comments about the oddity of Arab Muslim men pursuing non-Muslim western women created a dynanic around who is allowed to say what about who. That's what I responded to.

I was wondering, however, why you felt a need to say it there, then mention it again over here. The topic must have been heavy on your mind, perhaps.

Edited April 25, 2007 by Green-eyed girl

[lion_lioness 0]

I cannot believe this forum. I understand its not easy a bunch of hormonal women going through this process, but we are ladies aren't we? An outsider wouldn't think so reading some of this. What would our husbands think of us if they were reading these posts? What would our children think of us in reading this?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion because it is a free open forum after all. If you don't like it go start your own - Yahoo makes for a great group and you can control membership! I think its positive that Sarah and Julie are mature enough to apologize for possibly pointing out or hurting someone's feelings, but then that's it. If anyone should be pissed it's the person that the comment was directed to. Jacque's post was very mature - maybe we can follow suit.

As for all the red flags, I gotta say there have been times I read things and though uh ohhh could that be me (yikes) and at first I'm upset, then I realize it's because it could very well be me too. So instead, I talk to my fiance about the issues and really put my foot down. After its all said and done that is where it counts.

Many years ago and older gentleman told me to look out for yes friends. Friends that have your back and agree with all you do - even when it's wrong or flat out stupid! A real friend/sista will tell you first the black and white and then if she's truly your friend will still be there for you when sh*t hits the fan, with a little I told you so mixed in How many of us prefer yes friends over REAL (meaning folks that will tell you like it is because you just don't see it)? This is not directed to anyone it's directed to everyone - just food for thought.

For the record, I think arab women are beautiful and often question why arab men flock to american women. Sure I've heard "they just want money," and "they're not open minded" bid from arabic brothers, but they're still beautiful. Interesting how a couple arabic guys I know living here in the states with papers by way of DV have played out their fantasies with american girls, but when ready to marry couple up with their own. Perhaps they feel more in tune with that choice I don't know. Then again, there are some that love the light-eye blonde hair too. I'm not sleeping with the women so why should I care. However, allow it to provide some insight and be sure you look at all aspects of your relationship IMO.

Look I am divorced too, my ex is moroccan and I am five years older than he is. I am of spanish/african-american decent. I'm a size 12 (sometimes a 14 lol). So when I see comments about older, fat etc I don't take it personal. Ok ok ok maybe the fat part motivates me to go the gym. Point being, if I had just a touch more insight before the fact, I would not have married him. It had nothing to do with age, or babies or weight, but my lack of taking the time to look at the not-so-romanticized part of my relationship because everyone was too busy patting me on the back.

I know this is a long post and I apologize for rambling on but I've been a member of VJ off and on for almost three years now and I've seen the dynamic change for the worst. We clearly cannot just all get along - but can we at least at like Ladies? Please?

[RaspberrySwirl 20]

my fish died.... and my OLDER husband does not want children - oh ####### what does THAT mean?

Your fish is gross and abnormal, obviously.

That's what it means!

Or something...

PS: Ladies, we were doing so well here! What happened?

[brnidokiegurl 0]

Doodle, Green carry on (be nice) 5 comes early in the morning

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Many years ago and older gentleman told me to look out for yes friends. Friends that have your back and agree with all you do - even when it's wrong or flat out stupid! A real friend/sista will tell you first the black and white and then if she's truly your friend will still be there for you when sh*t hits the fan, with a little I told you so mixed in How many of us prefer yes friends over REAL (meaning folks that will tell you like it is because you just don't see it)? This is not directed to anyone it's directed to everyone - just food for thought.

My vote is for being real

[lion_lioness 0]

Right on GEG

[Sofiyya 1,687]

my fish died.... and my OLDER husband does not want children - oh ####### what does THAT mean?

Your fish is gross and abnormal, obviously.

That's what it means!

Or something...

PS: Ladies, we were doing so well here! What happened?

A move to sacrifice the "sacred cows" is what happened

[~Jackie~ 30]

Is this still the Tuesday thread? Happy Tuesday

J

[doodlebug 3]

Is this still the Tuesday thread? Happy Tuesday

J

Happy Tuesday to you too!!!

It's 11:22pm, I'm done and I still have to make lunches, do a load of laundry and put the dishes away!!! Softball season started and it's really screwing with my household schedule!!!

Is it unusual for MENA girls to be on a sports team? Everytime I mention that my girls have a softball game Usama looks at me like I have three heads. I've explained what softball is and all that but he still looks like a lost puppy. I wonder if it's just not usual for girls over there to be on a soccer, etc. team or something?

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

Sarah does not cause trouble on this board. period.

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

Abnormal means not the normal experience. Why read more into it than there is. I am abnormally intelligent

Maybe quoting this and repeating it will sink in for some: abnormal means not the norm, it's a word, not an insult.

So what does it mean when you combine it with "gross"?

It means you are adult women continually bringing up something that was said more than 6 months ago, even though the original poster of said comment said long ago she was sorry and meant no harm by it.

Helloooooooooooooooo...............mcflyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.......

............it's under her freakin' name with a freakin' trademark sign...........how is it NOT possible to bring it up when it's right there starin' ya in the face?????

everytime i saw the pic she had on it, i wanted to ask who was who.

[peezey 0]

Reported. Or you can man up with your big balls and take the post down yourself since you have no right to post your sick screen shots when someone has taken down their avatar long ago.

[mybackpages 0]

Reported. Or you can man up with your big balls and take the post down yourself since you have no right to post your sick screen shots when someone has taken down their avatar long ago.

Reported it as well.