'Mass shooting' reported at Sutherland Springs church in Texas

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

hopeful there's a good guy with a gun present at the next one, god willing. if not, well guess that's what we get for not advocating cc at all times, in all places, for all 'good guys'.

 

In Las Vegas, there were armed policemen that went up to the terrorist's room. 57 dead.

In Texas, there was an armed person present. 26 dead.

 

It all seems to suggests, that having guns around just in case, will not prevent innocent people from being killed, and I believe there isn't an acceptable number of casualties below which we write them off, as some are suggesting.

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, Beachlover said:

So if you break your pinkie and you are in pain, and I break my hand your broken pinkie doesn't matter?

Something like that?

 

It just means that some red herrings don't work. LOL. TKO.

[-Trinity- 513]

2 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

It just means that some red herrings don't work. LOL. TKO.

Apparently, it actually reminds me of when my kids are fuzzing and fighting: but mommy, he did it too!!!

 

Edited November 6, 2017 by Beachlover

[Steeleballz 7,550]

21 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Truck in Mogadishu was 270 and counting. Never mind all the others.

 

   Perhaps we should worry about that the next time we are in Mogadishu. In case it's not clear, we are talking about a mass shooting in the USA at this time.

Edited November 6, 2017 by Steeleballz

[natty bumppo 297]

2 hours ago, smilesammich said:

obviously some kids are more sensitive and anxious than others. not all kids get 'a kick' out of practicing such scenarios. some kids really put themselves mentally in that situation. they overthink it. they internalize it.

Obviously parents play a huge role in how kids perceive a practice scenario.

My twins can view things quite differently and have different sensitivity levels. Proper parenting does wonders to help them digest situations and keep things in perspective.

At times, vastly different techniques are needed on a given scenario. Just need to work with the child.

 

We have advance notice of drills at the school and talk with the kids on a regular basis.

Not properly preparing a child for drills is a huge failing of the parents.

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 hours ago, Sonea said:

In this case its not whether its easy or not, but why did his Federal Background Check come back clean when it wasn't. Did someone fail to put the info into the NICS?

 

Existing law should have denied his purchase.

 

    I think it's about both those things. Existing law didn't work and it is too easy for people who shouldn't have guns to get guns. The two issues are related. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, natty bumppo said:

Obviously parents play a huge role in how kids perceive a practice scenario.

My twins can view things quite differently and have different sensitivity levels. Proper parenting does wonders to help them digest situations and keep things in perspective.

At times, vastly different techniques are needed on a given scenario. Just need to work with the child.

 

We have advance notice of drills at the school and talk with the kids on a regular basis.

Not properly preparing a child for drills is a huge failing of the parents.

 

no, i completely disagree with you.. not on talking with your children about the drills - of course that is something that all parents should do.  

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

close to 500 dead by mostly handguns in one american city alone, this year. Oddly enough its not a head line 

Edited November 6, 2017 by Nature Boy Flair

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

close to 300 dead by mostly handguns in one american city alone, this year. Oddly enough its not a head line 

certainly isn't the topic of this thread. i disagree about it not being a headline either, but probably not a discussion that belongs here.

[Sonea 138]

14 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    I think it's about both those things. Existing law didn't work and it is too easy for people who shouldn't have guns to get guns. The two issues are related. 

In this case the law made it hard for him to get a gun...if the background check had the info.

[-Trinity- 513]

21 minutes ago, natty bumppo said:

Proper parenting does wonders to help them digest situations and keep things in perspective.

 

It's interesting you mention this and I agree to certain level. I don't think you can fully prepare them for anything like a shooting or attack, especially that young.

 

Even adults don't know how to cope with a situation like that and survivors often end up with PTSD and traumas. 

 

My husband is pro concealed carry, I'm moderate pro but I see also the other side of the coin. We both try to prepare the kids how to act in case they need too but I believe ( that's how I grew up, I don't know about others) that kids should grow up without being worried about mass shootings or any other attacks. Some of that innocence I grew up with ( where I'm from) is taking away from them. 

And no proper parenting will solve that, it's just a sad reality.

 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2017 by Beachlover

[natty bumppo 297]

18 minutes ago, natty bumppo said:

Obviously parents play a huge role in how kids perceive a practice scenario.

My twins can view things quite differently and have different sensitivity levels. Proper parenting does wonders to help them digest situations and keep things in perspective.

At times, vastly different techniques are needed on a given scenario. Just need to work with the child.

 

We have advance notice of drills at the school and talk with the kids on a regular basis.

Not properly preparing a child for drills is a huge failing of the parents.

 

 

12 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

no, i completely disagree with you.. not on talking with your children about the drills - of course that is something that all parents should do.  

You disagree with:

How parents play a role in how children perceive things? Really? 

Vastly different techniques are needed for different kids & scenarios?

How my twins view things and have different sensitivity levels? 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2017 by natty bumppo

[natty bumppo 297]

18 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    I think it's about both those things. Existing law didn't work and it is too easy for people who shouldn't have guns to get guns. The two issues are related. 

Just ask the atf to help get guns ... they've been known to help.

Edited November 6, 2017 by natty bumppo

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, natty bumppo said:

 

You disagree with:

How parents play a role in how children perceive things? Really? 

Vastly different techniques are needed for different kids & scenarios?

How my twins view things and have different sensitivity levels? 

 

 

i disagree with 'just need to work with the child' - if you have a sensitive/anxious child - you know this is 'just' not enough.

parents play a role in how children perceive things, which is why discussing openly is always a good idea.

i don't know anything about your kids, i was speaking from my experience - with my kid.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

12 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

certainly isn't the topic of this thread. i disagree about it not being a headline either, but probably not a discussion that belongs here.

Ongoing gun violence is not a topic in this thread huh.. WRONG

 

Now bashing the president isn't but yet...