'Mass shooting' reported at Sutherland Springs church in Texas

[smilesammich 10,727]

3 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

 

At the expense of other individual rights. 

 

 

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

You are confusing criminal gun behavior with the constitutional right to own guns and use them in legal manners.  Nobody using a gun in a legal manner is impacting your other individual rights.

 you're confused again!

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Just now, jayjayj said:

You are confusing criminal gun behavior with the constitutional right to own guns and use them in legal manners.  Nobody using a gun in a legal manner is impacting your other individual rights.

And no one who is a legal gun owner wants to see criminals continuing to take lives and put more black marks on our society.  The problem that NO ONE can seem to solve is... how do we stop the bad guys from doing what they do?

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, smilesammich said:

 

 you're confused again!

Nice argument!

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, IDWAF said:

And no one who is a legal gun owner wants to see criminals continuing to take lives and put more black marks on our society.  The problem that NO ONE can seem to solve is... how do we stop the bad guys from doing what they do?

why do laws exist? NO ONE can stop the bad guys from doing what they do!

Just now, jayjayj said:

Nice argument!

observation. now you're confused.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

For the 26 dead people in Texas, all their rights were lost.

Well, that is one way to put a spin on it.  Actually, they were brutally murdered by a psychotic guy with no respect for human life.  Looking at the article above, I am leaning towards believing he was not taught such respect growing up.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

why do laws exist? NO ONE can stop the bad guys from doing what they do!

 

I know.  It’s a Catch-22.  Our prison systems are maxed out, which is a black mark on the US.  Criminals continue to murder the weak and unprotected, which is a black mark on our society.  But if we prosecute them harshly, creating the necessary deterrent from it continuing (as in the death penalty) then THAT is a black mark on our society.  

 

We have gotten far too soft, and criminals have too many rights.

Edited November 7, 2017 by IDWAF

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Well, that is one way to put a spin on it.  Actually, they were brutally murdered by a psychotic guy with no respect for human life.  Looking at the article above, I am leaning towards believing he was not taught such respect growing up.

 

Looking at the article above, it is clear he used a gun to brutally murder 26 people. He is just another one is a list of terrorists who use guns in this manner. America is the only first world country where these incidents have become common news. 

 

In addition, it's not a spin. 26 people had have all their rights denied to them as of Sunday. 

Edited November 7, 2017 by CaliCat

[Steeleballz 7,550]

6 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

The NRA sometimes has specials on Life Memberships.  Right now it is $1500 and comes with an awesome NRA jacket.

 

https://membership.nra.org/Join/Life

 

I encourage everyone to join and ensure our 2nd Amendment rights are protected.

 

    You have said very little today that pertains to the topic. Your lack of a response to the actual subject speaks volumes.

[jayjayj 571]

1 minute ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    You have said very little today that pertains to the topic. Your lack of a response to the actual subject speaks volumes.

Your opinion.  You and your liberal buddies don't like it when people push back.  Get used to it.  

[jayjayj 571]

6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

 

observation. now you're confused.

Why do you keep posting senseless things?  Really, do you think you are being witty?

[Boiler 45,884]

3 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Looking at the article above, it is clear he used a gun to brutally murder 26 people. He is just another one is a list of terrorists who use guns in this manner. America is the only first world country where these incidents have become common news. 

 

In addition, it's not a spin. 26 people had have all their rights denied to them as of Sunday. 

He could of course have used a truck, but that does not seem to bother you.

[smilesammich 10,727]

3 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I know.  It’s a Catch-22.  Our prison systems are maxed out, which is a black mark on the US.  Criminals continue to murder the weak and unprotected, which is a black mark on our society.  But if we prosecute them harshly, creating the necessary deterrent from it continuing (as in the death penalty) then THAT is a black mark on our society.  

 

We have gotten far too soft, and criminals have too many rights.

uh, who is keeping the score on all these 'black marks'

 

actually the whole argument that the us soft on crime has been proven false for years now. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

33 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

But Trump isn’t her president, so she is safe from anything bad that comes from his terms in office.

If only

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Boiler said:

He could of course have used a truck, but that does not seem to bother you.

he could have used napalm. shall we start a list of alternatives? haven't done that before..

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

Your opinion.  You and your liberal buddies don't like it when people push back.  Get used to it.  

 

      I don't see anyone pushing you in this thread. Your internet tough guy routine is going to get the thread closed.