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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, GAKP said:

I think you just need to move on for your happiness. Stuff happens in life sometimes you can't control. The only thing I know for sure that she only has a conditional green card which is valid for only 2 years from the time that the government issued. After that, USCIS will send the letter to get the evidence that you guys still live together before granting a permanent GC. If you do not appear in front of the officer and can't provide supporting document that you two live together, that foreign person can be deported. The reason I know this because I used to be in the same boat as a foreign spouse. We did turn in the evidence first before they called us for interview. There were some people I know that failed the interview because they divorced before removing condition to move on with new person or they did not live together. So the conditional GC person got denial and waited for deportation. One girl from my country was deported.

So if you know that your intention is good, then do not have to think and get bitter because what goes around comes around. But if she can support the evidence that you abuse her or do wrongly to her, then you lose your ground in this battle.

 

Just keep positive thinking and you will have a wonderful life one day with a wonderful woman who truly love you.

Almost no one gets a USCIS letter these days  to apply for a permanent GC. Folks have to do it on their own. 

 

As mentioned earlier, there are threads that talk about support networks for Ukranian women on the US East Coast, probably with links to networks in Ukraine itself. Women are coached on reaching out to (American\Western) men online, and latching on to fiance/tourist visas. Once in the US, they tend to engage the support network and look for excuses to opt out of relationships, as OP's spouse presumably did. 

 

OP-- your wife is unlikely to be denied ROC or deported. You may however choose to go to Infopass and present any evidence of your then-fiance/wife's fraudulent activities which may/may not be referred to by the ROC adjudicator. You'll need her 9-digit A#. 

Edited by WeGuyGal

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Posted
22 minutes ago, Scazy said:

 If you still married AND submitted enough of evidence during those 2 conditional years, there is no interview. If there is something missing, there is RFE and still no interview if adjudicator is satisfied. If you both go to an interview - that usually means the evidence submitted was really weak. 

As for failing the interview based on divorce - again, in such case the evidence that marriage entered in good faith should be extremely thin. Probably the people you know (or heard) who's been deported did not had ANY sufficient proof at all? Because Roc is fairy easy process if you prepared. 

This is very inaccurate.

 

22 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

As mentioned earlier, there are threads that talk about support networks for Ukranian women on the US East Coast, probably with links to networks in Ukraine itself. Women are coached on reaching out to (American\Western) men online, and latching on to fiance/tourist visas. Once in the US, they tend to engage the support network and look for excuses to opt out of relationships, as OP's spouse presumably did. 

 

I am sure that was a Law & Order SVU episode.....

 

DUN DUH

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

This is very inaccurate.

 

 

I am sure that was a Law & Order SVU episode.....

 

DUN DUH

Which part is not accurate? if you have enough of evidence of good faith marriage, they simply send you a GC. I follow different ROC threads here and also based on experience of my friends, I'm confident they don't send you for an interview without a reason ( lack of ducuments in this case) correct me if I'm wrong

 

Edited by Scazy
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Posted
Just now, Scazy said:

Which part is not accurate? if you have enough of evidence of good faith marriage, they simply send you a GC. I follow different ROC threats here and also based on experience of my friends, I'm confident they don't send you for an interview without a reason ( lack of ducuments in this case) correct me if I'm wrong?

 

You are wrong.

 

Generally speaking petitions are reviewed and coded A B or C. A is good application with tons of proof and approvable. B is mostly good application- decent amount of proof, no major issues. C is something is off.

 

All C's get an interview. A percentage of A's and Bs get interviews as well for quality control purposes. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Damara said:

You are wrong.

 

Generally speaking petitions are reviewed and coded A B or C. A is good application with tons of proof and approvable. B is mostly good application- decent amount of proof, no major issues. C is something is off.

 

All C's get an interview. A percentage of A's and Bs get interviews as well for quality control purposes. 

I don't see how this is different from what I said, except that a strong petition might end up getting interview as a random check. But percentage of random checks I'm sure MUCH less than applications coded C - with lack of evidence. And again, every time I see someone got RFE -there is something missing. 

just recently a friend of mine got RFE because he submitted: old and expired lease, 2 fpl bills, pictures, 1 affidavit. Replied on RFE with only new lease. Called in for an interview, asked simple questions, got a GC. 

Another friend of mine got a green card based on divorce waiver without RFE or interview because she prepared a strong package of evidences with layer. 

So I still believe that as long as you have enough of evidences, ROC should not be a rocky road to anyone. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Scazy said:

I don't see how this is different from what I said, except that a strong petition might end up getting interview as a random check. But percentage of random checks I'm sure MUCH less than applications coded C - with lack of evidence. And again, every time I see someone got RFE -there is something missing. 

just recently a friend of mine got RFE because he submitted: old and expired lease, 2 fpl bills, pictures, 1 affidavit. Replied on RFE with only new lease. Called in for an interview, asked simple questions, got a GC. 

Another friend of mine got a green card based on divorce waiver without RFE or interview because she prepared a strong package of evidences with layer. 

So I still believe that as long as you have enough of evidences, ROC should not be a rocky road to anyone. 

bottom line here is that each application is different, regardless if you have tons of evidences if they saw a loop holes on your application like age gap, different religion etc.. or if you don't have interview for your AOS then they might send you an interview notice. 

Edited by Lemon23

VERMONT SERVICE CENTER - I-751 ROC

05/11/17: Date of I-751
05/12/17: VSC received our package

05/12/17: NOA Date
05/14/17: NOA Arrived in the mail & check cashed

06/22/17: Biometrics Appointment at ASC Manhattan

04/09/18: Online changed to case transferred to local office but no actual letter

06/13/18: Card Being Produced - NO RFE/NO INTERVIEW

06/16/18: Approval Letter arrived in the mail with 06/13/18 approval date

06/18/18: Card was picked up by USPS

06/20/18: Received 10 years Green Card from the mail - END OF I-751 JOURNEY!

 

E-FILING (IOE) N-400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

06/21/18: Submitted Online
06/22/18: Received NOA Online

06/23/18: Online account updated to Biometrics scheduled on 07/12/18

06/25/18: NOA letter arrived in the mail

06/28/18: Biometrics appointment letter arrived in the mail

07/12/18: Biometrics appointment at ASC Manhattan

02/28/19: In Line for Interview

03/01/19: Interview Date is on 04/08/19

04/08/19: Interview Day: Approved on the spot

04/09/19: We Scheduled your Oath Ceremony 

04/12/19: Oath Letter arrived in the mail

05/02/19: Oath Ceremony - OFFICIALLY U.S. CITIZEN AND END OF IMMIGRATION JOURNEY!

 

DS-11 - APPLICATION FOR US PASSPORT BOOK AND CARD

05/02/19: Submitted application thru USPS - Expedited
05/06/19: Received email, passport application is now traceable online thru Travel.State.gov website (https://passportstatus.state.gov/Search)

05/08/19: Received email, passport has been printed and it's on final processing
05/09/19: Received email, passport application has been finished processing with USPS tracking number and expected delivery is on 05/14/2019

05/10/19: Receive email from USPS informed Delivery - Expected Passport delivery is on 05/11/2019

05/11/19: Passport book received thru USPS Priority Mail

05/13/19: Passport card received

05/14/19: Naturalization Certificate back - END OF PASSPORT APPLICATION!

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Scazy said:

I don't see how this is different from what I said, except that a strong petition might end up getting interview as a random check. But percentage of random checks I'm sure MUCH less than applications coded C - with lack of evidence. And again, every time I see someone got RFE -there is something missing. 

just recently a friend of mine got RFE because he submitted: old and expired lease, 2 fpl bills, pictures, 1 affidavit. Replied on RFE with only new lease. Called in for an interview, asked simple questions, got a GC. 

Another friend of mine got a green card based on divorce waiver without RFE or interview because she prepared a strong package of evidences with layer. 

So I still believe that as long as you have enough of evidences, ROC should not be a rocky road to anyone. 

You said, they don't send You for an interview without a reason, which is what @Damara corrected.

Rfe's, are one thing - interviews are another. There are always random interviews to reach their quota.

K1 Visa & AOS

Spoiler

2016-03-19         i-129F Sent
2016-03-24         i-129F NOA1
2016-06-14         i-129F NOA2
2016-07-08         NVC Rec'd
2016-07-12         Case #
2016-07-13         NVC Left
2016-07-14         Consulate Rec'd
2016-07-19         Medical
2016-08-11         Interview Date (approved)
2016-09-06         Issued
2016-09-09         Visa In Hand
2016-10-19         POE Dallas Fort-Worth
2016-10-30         Our Halloween Wedding

2016-11-16         AOS package sent (i-485, i-131, i-765, i-864, g-325a, DS-3025)
2016-11-17         AOS package delivered to Chicago lockbox
2016-11-23         NOA1's by e-mail and text (@ 10:30 pm CT)
2016-11-26         NOA1 hard copies
2016-12-03         Biometrics appointment in mail
2016-12-07         Biometrics (Early walk-in Desoto, appointment was for Dec 13th)

2017-02-17         Notice of card in production by email and text (@8:00 am CT, i-765) - Day 92

2017-02-22         Notice of approval by email and text (@1:00 pm CT, i-765 and i-131) - Day 97

2017-02-22         Notice of card being mailed by email and text (@7:00 pm CT, i-765) - Day 97

2017-02-25         EAD/AP combo card arrived in mail - Day 100

2017-03-03         Notice of green card in production by email and text (@4:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-03         Notice of approval by email and text (@6:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-11          Green card arrived in mail  - Day 113

2018-12-03          First day to file for ROC (i-751)

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Posted
10 minutes ago, billy&lesly said:

You can write a letter explaining your reasons to withdraw your support, before she goes to her interview to remove conditions. Then you just have to leave it in their hands. 

Would be a waste of a stamp.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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Posted
15 hours ago, Chemist said:

Thanks for the replis so far. 

 

So it seems there's no way I can withdraw the affidavit of support? 

 

How can she prove that she entered the marriage in good faith? It seems like a "he said, she said" type of thing. USCIS won't view the timing of the divorce so soon after receiving the conditional GC to be a little suspicious? It's not like I filed the divorce, she did! 

 

I made an InfoPath appointment with USCIS to discuss this. I'll report any findings. 

Good luck! Sorry you're going through this.

BilLY & LeSly

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Posted
13 minutes ago, billy&lesly said:

Actually not. That letter will catch up with her at the interview to remove conditions. He has a right to take action if he feels he was taken advantage of. 

Wasting a stamp is not taking action.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted

You can't withdraw the I-864 just because it didn't work out with your wife. It's an agreement you made with the government, not your wife. It's to ensure that the taxpayer doesn't have to pick up the bill for feeding and housing the person you chose to bring into the country. And why should anyone else be responsible for her? 

 

You need to accept some personal responsibility here too. You chose her. You went to great lengths to demonstrate the relationship was genuine. Turns out you made a bad choice. It happens. I'm guessing you didn't spend that much time together before proposing - from browsing these forums it seems a week is about the norm for K-1s. That's really not enough time to get to know some from a completely different culture well enough to decide to spend every waking moment henceforth with that person. You probably rushed into it and this is what happens. 

 

Move on with your life. It wasn't meant to be. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Honduras
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Posted

Sorry if I previously passed along misinformation I read in another thread.  But, there are provisions in the instructions for ROC  in the case of divorce that the marriage must have been entered into in good faith and return to the home country is a hardship. 

If it were me, I would make an attempt to get out of the sponsorship if I thought the person was looking to dupe someone from the outset.  There have been multiple posts of someone bringing someone over and the beneficiary suddenly ditching the marriage the instant they can with no problems  in the relationship  preceding it.   My personal suspicion is it's premeditated in those cases,  and they coach each other.  I think for the harm they cause to the person who sacrificed for them under what are false pretenses they deserve the most uphill battle they can get. 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted
5 hours ago, bakphx1@aol.com said:

If it were me, I would make an attempt to get out of the sponsorship if I thought the person was looking to dupe someone from the outset. 

Easier to "get out" of it during the AOS stage if it's still pending.....during the ROC stage 2 years down the road after the AOS approval, and the couple married for nearly 3 years (or longer) pretty much impossible.

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

 
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