NYC terror attack suspect, Sayfullo Saipov, entered US through Diversity Visa Program

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Just now, yuna628 said:

The guy in question wasn't even from NY though. He's lived all over the country, and it seems like he was only in the NJ area recently. If we're going to surveil mosques, when are we going to surveil other houses of worship? Slippery slopes man.

I thought the Amish do not have a Church?

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4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I thought the Amish do not have a Church?

Study more.

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33 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I thought the Amish do not have a Church?

They don't. They meet in their homes on a rotating basis.

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1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

The guy in question wasn't even from NY though. He's lived all over the country, and it seems like he was only in the NJ area recently. If we're going to surveil mosques, when are we going to surveil other houses of worship? Slippery slopes man.

Aren’t we already sliding down that slope with all the unveiling of American citizens for political reasons?

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3 hours ago, cdneh said:

They don't. They meet in their homes on a rotating basis.

Lots of houses to surveil.

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5 hours ago, charmander said:

I'm not against DV. Family-sponsored GCs dominated by Mexico, Philippines, and Dominican Republic, employment-based GCs dominated by India and China. DV only gives 50K GCs a year as opposed to 950K the other categories give. Additional merits could be imposed to qualify for DV or change the quota system but I don't think total annihilation would improve anything in US immigration system.

But what about news that came out today that he has had 23 relatives petitioned for since he came in 2010? How do you feel about it then?

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I doubt that any sort of visa program could have kept this from happening.  Even USC who are born here get crazy in the head and commit atrocities.  

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4 hours ago, yuna628 said:

The guy in question wasn't even from NY though. He's lived all over the country, and it seems like he was only in the NJ area recently. If we're going to surveil mosques, when are we going to surveil other houses of worship? Slippery slopes man.

The mosque he was attending while staying in the tri-state area was under surveillance until they removed that surveillance due to scrutiny by groups like CAIR. 

 

BTW I am all for surveiling ANY house of worship IF THEY ARE OPENLY ADVOCATING  FOR AND RECRUITING PEOPLE TO DO HARM. It doesn't matter to me what denomination they are but if that sect/church/denomination is openly advocating for the death and destruction of people or bombing places then go ahead do it. I am one of the people on here that the Feds are doing this anyway right now so why not just come out in the open about the program???? Ohhh that's right because groups like CAIR and the ACLU will sue the Feds and say that it's ok if you guys do surveillance to Christian groups but if you do it to Muslim groups then it's racist. 

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1 hour ago, cyberfx1024 said:

But what about news that came out today that he has had 23 relatives petitioned for since he came in 2010? How do you feel about it then?

Ummm....I say his mom and dad were very productive; and anchor/chain immigration should not be allowed.

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This latest knucklehead terrorist appears to have become radicalized while living the U.S.  His misguided actions had nothing to do with the diversity visa program.  Extreme vetting would not have changed anything.

 

The Moron-in-Chief attacked the diversity visa program and Senator Schumer in an attempt to politicize the NYC tragedy to support his immigration policies.  This is blatant hypocrisy.  After the tragedy in Las Vegas, the Moron-in-Chief refused to talk about any gun control measures.

 

 

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2 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

it's ok if you guys do surveillance to Christian groups but if you do it to Muslim groups then it's racist. 

Argh...Muslim. Is.Not.A.Race

 

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2 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

But what about news that came out today that he has had 23 relatives petitioned for since he came in 2010? How do you feel about it then?

How is that even possible? Shouldn't be there a sort of cap? 

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1 minute ago, Beachlover said:

Argh...Muslim. Is.Not.A.Race

 

Do you not think that I know that Islam or just being Muslim is not a race???? Of course I know that there is just not one race that adheres to Islam, I am not some dumb American that doesn't know this. I have actually lived in the MENA region in and around Muslims of many different races and ethnicities. What I am talking about is that the Left likes to stereotype those of us on the Right as racist just because we don't like something. So it is easier for them just to call us racist. 

Just now, Beachlover said:

How is that even possible?

I don't know. 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5040235/Trump-reveals-NY-terror-suspect-brought-23-people.html

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I think I'm going to make this my new motto:

 

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

 

- Benjamin Franklin

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1 minute ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Do you not think that I know that Islam or just being Muslim is not a race???? Of course I know that there is just not one race that adheres to Islam, I am not some dumb American that doesn't know this. I have actually lived in the MENA region in and around Muslims of many different races and ethnicities. What I am talking about is that the Left likes to stereotype those of us on the Right as racist just because we don't like something. So it is easier for them just to call us racist. 

I don't know. 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5040235/Trump-reveals-NY-terror-suspect-brought-23-people.html

I know why you are saying it, I read enough from you to know that you aren't just another ignorant person. I just have an aversion towards that sentence. 

 

If there are mosques who are preaching hate and death and destruction, they should be closed. Period. They do that in Muslim countries too. Nothing racist about that since Muslims come from all different races.