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..to renew license with the Extension letter and expiring green card.

 

At the window, we submitted the docs.. and were informed they needed to verify the validity of spouse's immigration status with their legal dept. After waiting about 30 mins, DMV got a response that Legal "needs additional time to verify". We were told we'd be contacted; the rep entered our phone number in the system and we left the DMV. 

 

Happen to anyone? The license expires in two days. What to do? 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Posted (edited)

Which state?

 

I have had five licenses in 4.5 years, and normally they log on to the verify system and do it while you wait.

The system did go down once and I had to go back the next day to complete it (and of course, the next day the payment system went down instead :lol: ) but it normally takes a few mins tops.

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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Posted

it happened to when i was adjusting my K1. (Even thought, i had paperwork such as employment authorization, NOA1 etc. ) They said they would call me. they never did. when i visited them after a few months, they said they had not heard from the immigration yet.

Luckly i  received my GC  meanwhile. And visited them again, I asked them again. they said same thing they were waiting for the immigration. but then i showed my GC. Then, they renewed my Driving licence. 

 

It was a DMV at CT. I hope you will not go through same experience i do. 

Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Which state?

 

I have had five licenses in 4.5 years, and normally they log on to the verify system and do it while you wait.

The system did go down once and I had to go back the next day to complete it (and of course, the next day the payment system went down instead :lol: ) but it normally takes a few mins tops.

Virginia

 

(We did a legal name change couple months back; spouse's name on license is new; but old name on green card. Could that be the issue for delay?)

 

EDIT: The "A#s" on the Extension letter and Permanent Resident card match. 

Edited by WeGuyGal

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Posted
4 minutes ago, akbilgin said:

it happened to when i was adjusting my K1. (Even thought, i had paperwork such as employment authorization, NOA1 etc. ) They said they would call me. they never did. when i visited them after a few months, they said they had not heard from the immigration yet.

Luckly i  received my GC  meanwhile. And visited them again, I asked them again. they said same thing they were waiting for the immigration. but then i showed my GC. Then, they renewed my Driving licence. 

 

It was a DMV at CT. I hope you will not go through same experience i do. 

We honestly don't expect to hear from their Legal, I'd be surprised if they call. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Posted

Check if you can renew it online and avoid the hassle altogether.

 

I'd try to go back in without the supporting documents. Maybe it's a state by state issue, but we didn't have to bring in lots of paperwork for a renewal. It seemed that once you had initial proof, you could renew easily.

Posted

If they're doing a manual SAVE verification, it could take weeks.

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Posted (edited)

It's not something that cannot be done online as DMVs here need proof of legal status. And we didn't hand over any extra supporting docs, just the expiring license and the renewal application. They asked for the GC.. and then the extension letter. 

 

DMV does not issue any identification document on the spot. A license is a secure document with a hologram that has to be produced and mailed, kinda like the permanent resident card. 

Edited by WeGuyGal

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Posted
32 minutes ago, Hypnos said:

If they're doing a manual SAVE verification, it could take weeks.

How do we know it's manual?  The DMV Rep said verification usually takes at most 45 mins. We waited about 30.. then called to the window to be informed Legal needs additional time to verify whatever and to come back at a later date. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Posted
46 minutes ago, Dee elle said:

Did you take the marriage certificate, which shows the link between the 2 names?

We took the legal name change certificate when the got the license in the first place couple months back. We don't know for sure, but the issue could be that the green card still has the old name but the extension letter has the new name. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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Posted
1 hour ago, WeGuyGal said:

We honestly don't expect to hear from their Legal, I'd be surprised if they call. 

 

We actually did hear back from the DMV in CT after they consulted legal... about using the stamp in the passport as a I-551.   Went back in later that week and finished up the paperwork.  It was a pain, but honestly, they just don't have enough training in it.

3/2/18  E-filed N-400 under 5 year rule

3/26/18 Biometrics

7/2019-12/2019 (Yes, 16- 21 months) Estimated time to interview MSP office.

 

Posted (edited)
35 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

 A license is a secure document with a hologram that has to be produced and mailed, kinda like the permanent resident card. 

Same as NY where it comes in the mail in two weeks and you have a very unofficial piece of paper in the interim...but unlike NJ who issue it on the spot.

 

Perhaps they tried to use the SAVE system which wasn't playing ball so then decided to take it manually, which as noted above may take ages.

 

 

Honestly, I'd just go back or to a different DMV  (I know, I know, hateful places) and try again.

 

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Posted
18 minutes ago, Dee elle said:

I'd be taking it evry time as you cant be guaranted that appropriate notes are on the file, no that the service agent evn looks for any background info.. it may no be the problem, but worht ruling it out... 

 

Can you go back soon and hopefully get someone who is more supportive and helpful? Remember the days of calling the  NVC and USCIS when the assistance and information depended on which agent you talked to  !!! 

Well the thing is, DMV never asked for anything additional. The Rep appeared to be knowledgeable, as she was familiar with the extension document, and she seemed to consult her manager too who was walking around. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Posted
15 minutes ago, N-o-l-a said:

 

We actually did hear back from the DMV in CT after they consulted legal... about using the stamp in the passport as a I-551.   Went back in later that week and finished up the paperwork.  It was a pain, but honestly, they just don't have enough training in it.

 

2 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Same as NY where it comes in the mail in two weeks and you have a very unofficial piece of paper in the interim...but unlike NJ who issue it on the spot.

 

Perhaps they tried to use the SAVE system which wasn't playing ball so then decided to take it manually, which as noted above may take ages.

 

 

Honestly, I'd just go back or to a different DMV  (I know, I know, hateful places) and try again.

 

Yeah I think we'll try a different DMV tomorrow. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Posted
6 hours ago, WeGuyGal said:

We took the legal name change certificate when the got the license in the first place couple months back. We don't know for sure, but the issue could be that the green card still has the old name but the extension letter has the new name. 

Why didn’t you change the name on the GC?

 
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