Discriminated at job interview

[KC & SC 6]

I just have to spill this out.

I went to open hire job interview at USPS today. The person in charge at the interview

said I HAVE to provide green card. So I pointed out the form I-9 and telling her to read the top part about

anti-discrimination. She kept saying "I know. I know", but she didn't know what I was talking about. So I told her

again to read that part. It seems to be something she didn't know that she can't demand green card from me to

prove the lawful status. Then she goes "I still need your proof of A number". I told her it is written on

my visa on my passport. ( pending I-751) Then she goes that  does not prove. I told her to check my SSN. It should prove

my lawful status with A#. She goes again " it is up to them(her manager) to decide".

It is so biased, as this woman was asking everyone their nationality which most of them were U.S. Citizens.

So if applicants answered as "yes to US Citizens" , why she didn't ask for proof????

Oh man, I was furious.  This woman knows nothing!!  I wish I could make a huge complaint to

her manager but don't know who to call. I already withdrawn from this postion. It is not worth precious time.

I was so discriminated. I went for another position's interview at same building in USPS, the lady who was making copies

of our D/L and SSN told me that I don't have to provide copy of my visa. So this lady know the process.

 

Unfortunately, many employers don't knwo our process with USCIS. I wish there was a document to present to

employers so that what they are doing is so wrong.

[candybabe 46]

30 minutes ago, KC & SC said:

I just have to spill this out.

I went to open hire job interview at USPS today. The person in charge at the interview

said I HAVE to provide green card. So I pointed out the form I-9 and telling her to read the top part about

anti-discrimination. She kept saying "I know. I know", but she didn't know what I was talking about. So I told her

again to read that part. It seems to be something she didn't know that she can't demand green card from me to

prove the lawful status. Then she goes "I still need your proof of A number". I told her it is written on

my visa on my passport. ( pending I-751) Then she goes that  does not prove. I told her to check my SSN. It should prove

my lawful status with A#. She goes again " it is up to them(her manager) to decide".

It is so biased, as this woman was asking everyone their nationality which most of them were U.S. Citizens.

So if applicants answered as "yes to US Citizens" , why she didn't ask for proof????

Oh man, I was furious.  This woman knows nothing!!  I wish I could make a huge complaint to

her manager but don't know who to call. I already withdrawn from this postion. It is not worth precious time.

I was so discriminated. I went for another position's interview at same building in USPS, the lady who was making copies

of our D/L and SSN told me that I don't have to provide copy of my visa. So this lady know the process.

 

Unfortunately, many employers don't knwo our process with USCIS. I wish there was a document to present to

employers so that what they are doing is so wrong.

the document is the Green Card - even if it is expired , you can have USCIS put a sticker on the back of it with an extension if your I-751 is in process. 

 

Unless you show the Green Card , that has your photo on it, they cannot just use the SSN because you could be stealing someone's identity.

 

For US citizens they request passport or birth certificate as proof.

 

 

[shell20 746]

33 minutes ago, KC & SC said:

I just have to spill this out.

I went to open hire job interview at USPS today. The person in charge at the interview

said I HAVE to provide green card. So I pointed out the form I-9 and telling her to read the top part about

anti-discrimination. She kept saying "I know. I know", but she didn't know what I was talking about. So I told her

again to read that part. It seems to be something she didn't know that she can't demand green card from me to

prove the lawful status. Then she goes "I still need your proof of A number". I told her it is written on

my visa on my passport. ( pending I-751) Then she goes that  does not prove. I told her to check my SSN. It should prove

my lawful status with A#. She goes again " it is up to them(her manager) to decide".

It is so biased, as this woman was asking everyone their nationality which most of them were U.S. Citizens.

So if applicants answered as "yes to US Citizens" , why she didn't ask for proof????

Oh man, I was furious.  This woman knows nothing!!  I wish I could make a huge complaint to

her manager but don't know who to call. I already withdrawn from this postion. It is not worth precious time.

I was so discriminated. I went for another position's interview at same building in USPS, the lady who was making copies

of our D/L and SSN told me that I don't have to provide copy of my visa. So this lady know the process.

 

Unfortunately, many employers don't knwo our process with USCIS. I wish there was a document to present to

employers so that what they are doing is so wrong.

You can use an i55i stamp if you have one. (I think, looking at the list that is acceptable). That would have shown your alien registration number. You're correct you don't have to show your GC. I couldn't show one as I don't have one and most people who file for ROC and are given a stamp have their GC taken off them.  so they would need to accept the i55i stamp if they didn't  want to come across as discriminatory.  I would most certainly make a complaint if you showed the stamp and she still refused it.  I would complain to the HR department of USPS, which I am sure they have and if not Im sure they can point you into the right direction. It's sounds to me like a lack of training.

[mindthegap 2,590]

10 minutes ago, candybabe said:

the document is the Green Card - even if it is expired , you can have USCIS put a sticker on the back of it with an extension if your I-751 is in process. 

Does not apply to I-751.

There are no stickers, only I-797C extension letters which are used for the first year following expiry of a 2yr card, or an I-551 stamp after that.

 

Stickers are only used when replacing an expired 10yr card.

 

10 minutes ago, candybabe said:

Unless you show the Green Card , that has your photo on it, they cannot just use the SSN because you could be stealing someone's identity.

I-9 instructions are very clear. 

You can't use an expired document, so an expired 2yr card is useless and the extension letter causes more confusion than anything (wait, you say you are a permanent resident, so why does it say conditional, and what is this 1year extension thing about?).

 

State ID and an unrestricted SS card fulfills the I-9 requirements, as the OP tried to assert with little success.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2017 by mindthegap

[broppy 204]

18 minutes ago, shell20 said:

I would complain to the HR department of USPS, which I am sure they have and if not Im sure they can point you into the right direction. It's sounds to me like a lack of training.

I would skip USPS HR dept and directly file a charge with the Justice Department's Immigrant and Employee Rights Section. You can even do it online.

[shell20 746]

1 minute ago, broppy said:

I would skip USPS HR dept and directly file a charge with the Justice Department's Immigrant and Employee Rights Section. You can even do it online.

I agree, wouldn't let it slide. 

[KC & SC 6]

It is my first time applying for a 10 year green card. USCIS agent at local office told me that only those who already

have 10 year GC and renewing it can get stickers on existing GC. In my case, I only recieved an extension letter as

I am still with conditions. I have valid D/L,  and unrestricted SSN and valid I-551.

My extension letter has already expired so before it expired, I went to USCIS local office and officer gave me

a conditional permanent resident stamp valid for a year while I-751 is still pending.

Yeah, this woman is lack of knowledge. She thinks only way ailiens can work is thouse who have "Green Card".

And if anything, she would say this is a government job. But any jobs should take proper channels.

 

I think I found a person whom I can make a complain to in USPS. But I will take broppy's advice and email dept of

justice first.

broppy; oh, thank you for a useful tip.  Definitely I am going to send an email!!

shell20; thanks for a vote!

 

[shell20 746]

2 minutes ago, KC & SC said:

It is my first time applying for a 10 year green card. USCIS agent at local office told me that only those who already

have 10 year GC and renewing it can get stickers on existing GC. In my case, I only recieved an extension letter as

I am still with conditions. I have valid D/L,  and unrestricted SSN and valid I-551.

My extension letter has already expired so before it expired, I went to USCIS local office and officer gave me

a conditional permanent resident stamp valid for a year while I-751 is still pending.

Yeah, this woman is lack of knowledge. She thinks only way ailiens can work is thouse who have "Green Card".

And if anything, she would say this is a government job. But any jobs should take proper channels.

 

I think I found a person whom I can make a complain to in USPS. But I will take broppy's advice and email dept of

justice first.

broppy; oh, thank you for a useful tip.  Definitely I am going to send an email!!

shell20; thanks for a vote!

 

You're welcome!

[charmander 692]

1 hour ago, broppy said:

I would skip USPS HR dept and directly file a charge with the Justice Department's Immigrant and Employee Rights Section. You can even do it online.

Has anyone done this before? What is the typical timeline to get a response/result? If they are fast like within days or 1-2 weeks, it is good but if they are going to take another few months, what good it is if the CPR is currently in need of a job or the one that ignorantly denies the paperwork is a dream job?

[broppy 204]

4 minutes ago, charmander said:

Has anyone done this before? What is the typical timeline to get a response/result? If they are fast like within days or 1-2 weeks, it is good but if they are going to take another few months, what good it is if the CPR is currently in need of a job or the one that ignorantly denies the paperwork is a dream job?

There's a sticky thread in the Working & Traveling forum. It's from a couple of years ago (when IER was known as OSC), but their response at the time was pretty quick.

 

[KC & SC 6]

I just filed a case with IER. I will update if they contact me how they will handle the case.

I sure hope they will contact USPS asap and the staff in question will be aware that

I filed the case.

Many employers seem to be very ignorant. They think only way for Aliens to be able to work is those

who has Green cards. We have to renew them and there is alreay waiting period.

[CEE53147 559]

OP,  You seem to think you are entitled to the job and other than this issue you would have it.  I seriously doubt it as USPS jobs - in fact all government type jobs - are in demand.  An immigrant has no preference over  vets and the disabled.

[mindthegap 2,590]

Shame there isn't an additional option with this lot...

 

 

...for when the post is complete horlicks

 

 

[DaveNot 55]

USPS doesn't hire conditional residents. It is in their policy manual last I checked. They hire permanent residents.

[Lemonslice 4,841]

31 minutes ago, DaveNot said:

USPS doesn't hire conditional residents. It is in their policy manual last I checked. They hire permanent residents.

Lawfull permanent residents are eligible to be hired - no distinction made on 2- or 10-year green card, or i551:

https://about.usps.com/handbooks/el312/el312c5_025.htm 

https://about.usps.com/handbooks/el312/el312c5_026.htm

 

For employment, LPR is LPR. 

Edited October 31, 2017 by Lemonslice