New Math vs Old Math

[Nagishkaw 510]

I wonder if any of our members here worked in retail before. I would like to say something, but, I don't want to be mean. It was mean to me when I experienced those situations when the customer was thinking that I was the ' idiot.' It's really frustrating.

I worked in retail from the age of 14, as we had a family owned retail business (mid-70's)... this was before the advent of calculators and computers (we had a very old cash register and a non-electric "pull-handle" style adding machine). Not only did we have to figure out how to make "change" and we had to calculate the additional sales tax in our "heads" (particularly when we were very busy and could not wait to use the convienience of the adding machine).

Consolemaster,

Haven't you heard ? The customer is ALWAYS right.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Sorry. I had bad memories of being a cashier and having everyone thinking that cashiers are stupid, etc...I blew up. I shouldn't have. Geezes. I need to go and play some video games.

Edited April 23, 2007 by consolemaster

[Nagishkaw 510]

Try to relax.

[dalegg 143]

This is damn funny. I suggest everybody watch the movie Idiocracy and tell me that although this isn't a great movie, it doesn't have a certain logic to it.

[Jasman0717 9]

I was at WalMart the other day and when the cashier inputted the amount of money tendered, the register told them exactly how many of which denomination of currency and coins (with nice little pictures of what the currency and coins looked like) to return to me as change....

I was a little concerned when Claudeth went to work at Sears because she was having a difficult time with U.S. coins but she quickly figured it out!

[tmma 467]

I know what you mean. However, when I was working through college I get confused sometimes when someone give me change after the transaction is completed. Sometimes I mess up. And, you can guess what my major was in college, double engineering degree.

Sometimes when a person is stressed and there is a lot of people waiting in line, it makes them panic and think slower when someone gives them change after the transaction is completed. I remember when I was only waiting for 1 person, I can solve the math correctly. But, when given 10 people waiting in line, I cannot think as quick.

This is coming from a professional engineer. I deal with higher order mathematics with physics, and quantum physics. Estimation theory, Bayesian Analysis, Vectors, Calculus, Differentials, Advanced Mathematics, etc...for many of my applications. Remember, don't judge a person too quickly if they're cashiers.

I wonder if any of our members here worked in retail before. I would like to say something, but, I don't want to be mean. It was mean to me when I experienced those situations when the customer was thinking that I was the ' idiot.' It's really frustrating.

Little did they know that I know more mathematics than their puny calculations. When you encounter a stressful environment where you must ring people out as much as possible to appease the customer patience of waiting thus increasing loyalty, and at the same time giving correct change is very stressful.

I don't know how to put it. At Princeton, the faculty lounge is a very relaxed and easy going room. It has recliners, a fireplace, etc...It's designed to bring the mind at ease, and for these scientists to better share their ideas. People cannot think clearly in a think-quick environment.

Sometimes people HAVE to think clearly and " on their feet" in their working environment. I work in the tower with Air Traffic Controllers, now there is some folks that can remain calm and make effective decisions and function under pressure!

I think it is more the individuals capeability to work and think under some stress/pressure.

Some people just cannot handle it.

Also--Console--Do you have an irresistable urge to include your academic/professional resume in every post you make? It's not just on this thread either....

Edited April 23, 2007 by tmma

[ivona 0]

I know what you mean. However, when I was working through college I get confused sometimes when someone give me change after the transaction is completed. Sometimes I mess up. And, you can guess what my major was in college, double engineering degree.

Sometimes when a person is stressed and there is a lot of people waiting in line, it makes them panic and think slower when someone gives them change after the transaction is completed. I remember when I was only waiting for 1 person, I can solve the math correctly. But, when given 10 people waiting in line, I cannot think as quick.

This is coming from a professional engineer. I deal with higher order mathematics with physics, and quantum physics. Estimation theory, Bayesian Analysis, Vectors, Calculus, Differentials, Advanced Mathematics, etc...for many of my applications. Remember, don't judge a person too quickly if they're cashiers.

I wonder if any of our members here worked in retail before. I would like to say something, but, I don't want to be mean. It was mean to me when I experienced those situations when the customer was thinking that I was the ' idiot.' It's really frustrating.

Little did they know that I know more mathematics than their puny calculations. When you encounter a stressful environment where you must ring people out as much as possible to appease the customer patience of waiting thus increasing loyalty, and at the same time giving correct change is very stressful.

I don't know how to put it. At Princeton, the faculty lounge is a very relaxed and easy going room. It has recliners, a fireplace, etc...It's designed to bring the mind at ease, and for these scientists to better share their ideas. People cannot think clearly in a think-quick environment.

Sometimes people HAVE to think clearly and " on their feet" in their working environment. I work in the tower with Air Traffic Controllers, now there is some folks that can remain calm and make effective decisions and function under pressure!

I think it is more the individuals capeability to work and think under some stress/pressure.

Some people just cannot handle it.

:thumbs: :thumbs:

Also--Console--Do you have an irresistable urge to include your academic/professional resume in every post you make? It's not just on this thread either....

my thinking as well...

[Ban Hammer 13,625]

I know what you mean. However, when I was working through college I get confused sometimes when someone give me change after the transaction is completed. Sometimes I mess up. And, you can guess what my major was in college, double engineering degree.

Sometimes when a person is stressed and there is a lot of people waiting in line, it makes them panic and think slower when someone gives them change after the transaction is completed. I remember when I was only waiting for 1 person, I can solve the math correctly. But, when given 10 people waiting in line, I cannot think as quick.

This is coming from a professional engineer. I deal with higher order mathematics with physics, and quantum physics. Estimation theory, Bayesian Analysis, Vectors, Calculus, Differentials, Advanced Mathematics, etc...for many of my applications. Remember, don't judge a person too quickly if they're cashiers.

I wonder if any of our members here worked in retail before. I would like to say something, but, I don't want to be mean. It was mean to me when I experienced those situations when the customer was thinking that I was the ' idiot.' It's really frustrating.

Little did they know that I know more mathematics than their puny calculations. When you encounter a stressful environment where you must ring people out as much as possible to appease the customer patience of waiting thus increasing loyalty, and at the same time giving correct change is very stressful.

I don't know how to put it. At Princeton, the faculty lounge is a very relaxed and easy going room. It has recliners, a fireplace, etc...It's designed to bring the mind at ease, and for these scientists to better share their ideas. People cannot think clearly in a think-quick environment.

Sometimes people HAVE to think clearly and " on their feet" in their working environment. I work in the tower with Air Traffic Controllers, now there is some folks that can remain calm and make effective decisions and function under pressure!

I think it is more the individuals capeability to work and think under some stress/pressure.

Some people just cannot handle it.

Also--Console--Do you have an irresistable urge to include your academic/professional resume in every post you make? It's not just on this thread either....

ENGINERD!!!

[Nagishkaw 510]

Best post of the day.

[Charuhans 0]

I worked in retail from the age of 14, as we had a family owned retail business (mid-70's)... this was before the advent of calculators and computers (we had a very old cash register and a non-electric "pull-handle" style adding machine). Not only did we have to figure out how to make "change" and we had to calculate the additional sales tax in our "heads" (particularly when we were very busy and could not wait to use the convienience of the adding machine).

No ###### you have to do it your head. Everyone does. You think some of these cashier aren't? Don't give yourself the benefit of a doubt. Fast food in Mcdonalds has gotten faster on their demand. It's different nowadays, however, the skill remains the same. You have no idea that in order to become an engineer nowadays is not as simple as just knowing things.

I had to use the slide-rule to determine my logarithms in the past. These calculators and computers are designed by engineers. They know how to make it so that they can determine the cosine and sine of angles, euler's number, etc...We used Taylor and Maclurean series to get the approximate values without calculators. As a matter of fact, the calculators uses Taylor and Maclurean series to get the values of these trig functions. You know, there's more into it than things such as not knowing instantly how to figure things out. Sometimes, these cashier may not to think of stuff quickly. I know that everyone suffers brain farts.

Enough. I'm leaving this topic, it's getting me heated. I am mad because some of these cashier may very well turn out to be an engineer like me someday.

Gosh!! We sure are going to get more of those bridge collapses in the near future