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29 minutes ago, Plantagenet said:

Hi SusieQQQ the intent of all of this is to reunite the family as the program was intended to do.

As you can imagine the death of my father created quite a hole.  The need for a new start and to unite the family is the overall intention.

I can understand that, and I have sympathy. But it seems easier to reunite in your home country rather than move everyone to the US. It seems like trying to do this is just adding a huge amount of stress to an already stressful and sad situation. 

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If it was just me then I agree that would probably be the easiest path.  However I have my own family with an 11 and a 9 year old who are now more American than English and I personally love the US and believe the best life for them is here.  Not an easy situation as you say.

 

On the plus side there are options and I think there is a legal path to entry it just seems it may not be as straight forward as I would like.

 

Reading what others have written it could potentially be resolved by changing the application order.  So if the process started with my sister applying for a student permit before I even looked to sponsor my mum this may solve all our issues.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Plantagenet said:

 

 

Reading what others have written it could potentially be resolved by changing the application order.  So if the process started with my sister applying for a student permit before I even looked to sponsor my mum this may solve all our issues.

 

 

...if you ignore the fact that what you are intending to do is technically illegal, ie applying for non-immigrant visas with immigrant intent.

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I think the plan is to use the non immigrant visa to 'wait out' the immigrant visa, not to immigrate with it.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I think the plan is to use the non immigrant visa to 'wait out' the immigrant visa, not to immigrate with it.

A subtle difference that I’m not convinced a CO would ignore, would they to be entirely honest at the interview about the eventual intention. After all you are supposed to show ties back to your home country to get a student visa.

 

of course I’m not naive and know many people do it this way. 

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What ties do most Students have?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

What ties do most Students have?

 

5 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Family, normally...

 

 

But don’t take my word for it.  Here’s an actual US university take on the matter. They describe proving nonimmigrant intent as one of the most important parts of the application.  As most students won’t have employment or financial ties, that leaves family. Which is why it’s harder to get an F1 approved when the applicant has immediate family already in the US.

visa_tips.pdf

 

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4 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

 

 

But don’t take my word for it.  Here’s an actual US university take on the matter. They describe proving nonimmigrant intent as one of the most important parts of the application.  As most students won’t have employment or financial ties, that leaves family. Which is why it’s harder to get an F1 approved when the applicant has immediate family already in the US.

visa_tips.pdf

 

Her Sisters?

 

More interestingly how many people go back to the family home after Uni?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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55 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Her Sisters?

 

More interestingly how many people go back to the family home after Uni?

I don’t think “how many people go back to the family home after Uni” would be treated as a great response by a CO, personally. (Especially given that record numbers of young adults are living at their parents’ homes these days.)  Anyway, we can sit and debate this till the cows come home, but when the actual universities are warning applicants about this I’d say it’s probably something they need to at least consider in their application.

 

plenty of hits on a search for F1 denials on basis of no strong ties to country btw. Here’s one, but go google, there are many, including on VJ.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/926731-i-was-rejected-for-f-1-visa.html

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Well the most analogous example I can think of are E2 children aging out and as a general comment they do not seem to have too much of an issue.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Why do you need an analogy when there actual cases of what he wants his sister to do?

 

anyway OP as you’ve figured out, the bottom line is there is no easy/fast way to do this, and there are clear risks using a non immigrant visa in the interim.  Good luck, hope you manage to get something worked out.

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I had to use an an analogy as the OP has not applied so looked for common ones in a similar situation.

 

As I mentioned earlier 16 seems a bit of an odd age but do not know where she is in her schooling. About half my school year did their A Levels a year early, she may be in that category.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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She is just finishing her GCSE this academic year.  Her birthday is in September so she is one of the oldest in her class.

 

So she would come to the US to do two years of high school not for Uni.

 

She could then apply to go to a US Uni after that

 

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Putting aside the Visa issue that does not actually make much sense educationally, lots of discussions on BE about moving children at that age.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 
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