Re-entry after SEVIS termination

[chayoung 0]

Is it possible to re-enter on an old F-1 visa (expiry in 2019, not sure if it is still valid) after SEVIS termination for unlawful work?

[BuiQuang 95]

no.  visa void.  

[chayoung 0]

DSO at the school told she is unsure and there might be a chance. She asked me to try at my own risk of being turned around at the POE. Is there some way to check if the visa is still valid?

[BuiQuang 95]

for visa to be valid u must maintain student status.  no student status visa void.  u no can maintain student status without SEVIS.  no SEVIS no student status so visa void.  https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/sevis-help-hub/student-records/completions-and-terminations/terminate-a-studentdependent

[chayoung 0]

but, I see there is a 5-month rule that applies to terminated students or to students who go out of status for up to 5 months, can re-enter if their visa is not expired on a new I-20. Is that not right? https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/2015/01/what-is-the-five-month-rule

[BuiQuang 95]

i give up.  think.  they terminate your SEVIS and you MUST leave US in 15 days cuz u ARE NO LONGER A STUDENT.  why u think u okay to use visa again?

 

if visitor visa holder with 10 years visa break immigration law, okay to use visa next year?  NO.  VISA VOID WHEN U BREAK RULE.

 

 

[BuiQuang 95]

u simply not out of status for not showing up to class.  u terminated cuz u violate immigration rule not allowing u to work.  5 month rule no apply to u.

 

u fly to us u will not get in.  u will pay for another plane ticket to go home after loong long detention interview.

[chayoung 0]

I understand. Thanks for the information.

[Coco8 1,042]

Officers ask you what to study, etc., when you are coming into the country. If you lie you will end up with a 10 year ban. 

 

This was a dumb question.

[chayoung 0]

I don't wanna lie. I would give detailed and correct explanations with valid documents that could support my defense in helping me making them understand that I never worked unlawfully. I tried dealing similar way with my DSO but she wasn't ready to understand me. I don't know how that would go with the CBP but I have no intention of lying. If I can convince the CBP, will I be re-admitted?

[BuiQuang 95]

49 minutes ago, chayoung said:

I don't wanna lie. I would give detailed and correct explanations with valid documents that could support my defense in helping me making them understand that I never worked unlawfully. I tried dealing similar way with my DSO but she wasn't ready to understand me. I don't know how that would go with the CBP but I have no intention of lying. If I can convince the CBP, will I be re-admitted?

one last time.  no.   U CAN NOT USE THIS VISA CUZ IT VOID.

 

why they think u work illegally?  what happen?

Edited October 27, 2017 by BuiQuang

[chayoung 0]

I was helping my friend pick up and arrange the clothes as she dropped a huge rack of clothes flipping over it to help me avoid an injury at her store. That took like 10-12 minutes for both of us to do. It was the same time someone from my school saw it and reported. Because they've seen me setting up the hangers and the clothes back in place, they mistook me to be working. I was working on campus for 20 hours, enrolled full time (12 credits), had a full-fee waiver. Inspite of the courses being really tough (on an average, people redo the same course thrice to pass it), I managed to be the class topper(in the very first attempt) securing a GPA of 4.0 for the term. I had no reason to work off campus. But, there was no one ready to believe my words. I can also show my bank statements which give a detail report of my payroll from school and no other source of income. It's after this incident in my life that I started believing in "If you can only see one side of a coin, that doesn't mean it has no other side". I'm trying to explain this to everyone and I had never known till date that proving truth is so hard. That's my misfortune and I'm being punished for something I've never done. My bad! 

 

I know securing a new visa while termination for unlawful work is almost impossible, I'm being keen and asking the same question multiple times seeking for at least one positive response that would boost my confidence in helping me live and achieve my dreams.

Edited October 27, 2017 by chayoung

[BuiQuang 95]

sorry.  helping ur friend at her store is illegal work.  even for 1 minute.  u not getting paid irrelevant.  u r being punish for something u did do.  ur friend need help at her store then she need to hire eligible worker.  u no can do anything at a business.  not even help for 1 minute.  only workers arrange clothes and set up.  that work not done by non-workers.

Edited October 27, 2017 by BuiQuang

[chayoung 0]

I went to her store in order to return her iPad. offering help to a friend to pick up some dropped thing is nothing at all. It's also not that she cannot hire a worker. I helped her because I was the reason for it. It's the most simple things in life that affect you in a great deal. If someone flips over your leg and fall down, would you not help them get up and stand right? It didn't matter to me if it was a thing then. I don't understand the point in calling it "illegal work". 

[BuiQuang 95]

12 minutes ago, chayoung said:

I went to her store in order to return her iPad. offering help to a friend to pick up some dropped thing is nothing at all. It's also not that she cannot hire a worker. I helped her because I was the reason for it. It's the most simple things in life that affect you in a great deal. If someone flips over your leg and fall down, would you not help them get up and stand right? It didn't matter to me if it was a thing then. I don't understand the point in calling it "illegal work". 

did u flip over rack of clothes and pick it up?  no.  that's why it illegal work.  u r not allow to help her at the store under any condition.

 

u r not allowed to do things that a worker do in her store.  that why it illegal work.  only workers go to a store and arrange clothes.

Edited October 27, 2017 by BuiQuang