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Psy-ops played a large part.

Brad Parscale is now a very rich man.

He, Jared, Boris Ephsteyn and Manafort, amongst others have much to answer for. They manipulated "useful idiots", as Putin would say...

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/russia-investigators-trump-digital-director/index.html

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1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

You may be missing some if the details about the law. Photo ID is not the standard.

Oh, but it is, and will become more so as time goes on.  Ever hear of REAL ID & the enhanced drivers license?  It’s coming soon to a DMV near you...

 

Why would anyone in their right mind NOT want a photo ID be required to vote?  It is required for so many mundane things, like buying alcohol and cigarettes, medication, etc.  Why not proof of eligibility to vote?

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25 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Psy-ops played a large part.

Brad Parscale is now a very rich man.

He, Jared, Boris Ephsteyn and Manafort, amongst others have much to answer for. They manipulated "useful idiots", as Putin would say...

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/russia-investigators-trump-digital-director/index.html

I had a feeling the Russians were behind all those lost ID's.

 

 

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How much longer can Trump insist that Russian interference is all a big hoax? The Department of Homeland Security, hardly a flat-Earth proponent, told election officials in 21 states this week that Russian government hackers had targeted them in the 2016 campaign, although vote tallies were untouched. According to a McClatchy report, congressional investigators and the Justice Department think the Trump campaign's digital operation, captained by son-in-law Jared Kushner, might have helped the Russians target voters with fake news in 2016. “There appears to have been significant cooperation between Russia’s online propaganda machine and individuals in the United States who were knowledgeable about where to target the disinformation,” said Mike Carpenter, who worked on Russia matters at the Pentagon until recently. Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., believes the Russians targeted women and African-Americans in Wisconsin and Michigan.

“I’ve always found Paul Manafort to be a very decent man,” Trump saidafter the FBI executed its search warrant on his Alexandria home. Like all Trump assessments, that one was situational. Both men are brilliant operators with fine survival instincts. Both men, we can assume, possess damaging information on the other, and are studying their game theory textbooks to determine if and what they should each leak on the other to keep their own head above water. Who will survive? I put my money on Trump, crafty Trump, the master of ethics in crowded lifeboats.

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How much longer can Trump insist that Russian interference is all a big hoax? The Department of Homeland Security, hardly a flat-Earth proponent, told election officials in 21 states this week that Russian government hackers had targeted them in the 2016 campaign, although vote tallies were untouched. According to a McClatchy report, congressional investigators and the Justice Department think the Trump campaign's digital operation, captained by son-in-law Jared Kushner, might have helped the Russians target voters with fake news in 2016. “There appears to have been significant cooperation between Russia’s online propaganda machine and individuals in the United States who were knowledgeable about where to target the disinformation,” said Mike Carpenter, who worked on Russia matters at the Pentagon until recently. Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., believes the Russians targeted women and African-Americans in Wisconsin and Michigan.

“I’ve always found Paul Manafort to be a very decent man,” Trump saidafter the FBI executed its search warrant on his Alexandria home. Like all Trump assessments, that one was situational. Both men are brilliant operators with fine survival instincts. Both men, we can assume, possess damaging information on the other, and are studying their game theory textbooks to determine if and what they should each leak on the other to keep their own head above water. Who will survive? I put my money on Trump, crafty Trump, the master of ethics in crowded lifeboats.

 

"although vote tallies were untouched"  Thanks for confirming again that not a single vote was changed by Russian hackers.  

 

The better questions is, when will liberals stop obsessing over an election they lost fair and square?  

 

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

 

"although vote tallies were untouched"  Thanks for confirming again that not a single vote was changed by Russian hackers.  

 

The better questions is, when will liberals stop obsessing over an election they lost fair and square?  

 

 

Not this past year, it has been proven.   Just a guess, but is put money on not next year as well.

 

Voter fraud was an impossibility (according to Hillary supporters) until Trump got elected.  Now they look everywhere for a scrap of proof...

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Not this past year, it has been proven.   Just a guess, but is put money on not next year as well.

 

Voter fraud was an impossibility (according to Hillary supporters) until Trump got elected.  Now they look everywhere for a scrap of proof...

That's why we need universal voter ID laws, to keep things fair for everyone.  The only people against voter ID laws are the people hoping to get illegal votes or stuffing of the ballot boxes, they know it but would never admit it, whether that be people voting more than once or people pretending to be deceased voters.  

 

As mentioned earlier, I don't see anyone complaining about having to show a picture ID to buy NyQuil.  It is selective outrage, because they don't want to lose those illegal votes.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Not this past year, it has been proven.   Just a guess, but is put money on not next year as well.

 

Voter fraud was an impossibility (according to Hillary supporters) until Trump got elected.  Now they look everywhere for a scrap of proof...

 

   Are you saying they should just drink the Kool-Aid? Like Trump supporters do whenever he alleges rubbish like "millions of illegals" voted for Clinton.

 

   

 

 

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   Are you saying they should just drink the Kool-Aid? Like Trump supporters do whenever he alleges rubbish like "millions of illegals" voted for Clinton.

 

   

 

 

My kids love Kool-Aid, but if they tried to vote illegally, since they aren't old enough, I would put them in a time out.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

My kids love Kool-Aid, but if they tried to vote illegally, since they aren't old enough, I would put them in a time out.

  

  Well eating beef or getting a university degree are not bad things, but you wouldn't feed someone a Trump steak, or want a person to get their degree from Trump University. I recommend you similarly avoid the Trump Kool-Aid. 

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How much longer can Trump insist that Russian interference is all a big hoax? The Department of Homeland Security, hardly a flat-Earth proponent, told election officials in 21 states this week that Russian government hackers had targeted them in the 2016 campaign, although vote tallies were untouched. According to a McClatchy report, congressional investigators and the Justice Department think the Trump campaign's digital operation, captained by son-in-law Jared Kushner, might have helped the Russians target voters with fake news in 2016. “There appears to have been significant cooperation between Russia’s online propaganda machine and individuals in the United States who were knowledgeable about where to target the disinformation,” said Mike Carpenter, who worked on Russia matters at the Pentagon until recently. Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., believes the Russians targeted women and African-Americans in Wisconsin and Michigan.

“I’ve always found Paul Manafort to be a very decent man,” Trump saidafter the FBI executed its search warrant on his Alexandria home. Like all Trump assessments, that one was situational. Both men are brilliant operators with fine survival instincts. Both men, we can assume, possess damaging information on the other, and are studying their game theory textbooks to determine if and what they should each leak on the other to keep their own head above water. Who will survive? I put my money on Trump, crafty Trump, the master of ethics in crowded lifeboats.

So what your saying happened is that they the Russian through various media sources and outlets tried to push a narrative about Hillary for Trump???? I am just trying to understand this ok because if you are getting mad about this but did not get mad when the Obama Administration did the SAME THING in Russia and Israel then your full of malarky. We did the same exact thing to Putin. So do you think he got mad about it and wanted to do the same thing to Hillary? Of course he wanted to. 

 

At the end of the day there was no official change of votes at all in the election by the Russians and that's what matters. 

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3 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

So what affect did the law have on all of the other races in the ballot?

You are not counting the effect that the Left has had in Wisconsin on how many recalls and elections has that governor won now? How in Wisconsin it's ok if police barge in your house, arrest you, take your electronic equipment for "charges" brought by an anonymous source in regards to what political party you affiliate with. 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2015/04/24/scott-walker-supporters-claim-police-raided-homes-over-politics.html

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417155/wisconsins-shame-i-thought-it-was-home-invasion-david-french

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-in-wisconsin-done-in-by-john-doe/2014/10/24/b30ee2ec-5ad8-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html?utm_term=.4dd1258e6125

 

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  Well eating beef or getting a university degree are not bad things, but you wouldn't feed someone a Trump steak, or want a person to get their degree from Trump University. I recommend you similarly avoid the Trump Kool-Aid. 

My kids are being raised to think independently, as opposed to the liberal philosophy of indoctrination and totalitarianism.  If they want to drink Kool-Aid, they can make that decision for themselves.  That is the difference between the right and the left, way more people on the right support an individuals right to decide for themselves.  The left simply believes that everyone should fall in line behind them and if they don't, well they must be racists or fascists.  There is no room for a differing opinion when it comes to the left.  Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

 

 

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