K1 Background checks? Marijuana use?

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Just chiming in. Go through the Jamaica portal to read previous threads on the topic. Most, of not all, will say there is a 1yr ban for admission. Try not to take comments personal. There are some very experienced and knowledgeable people on here who may come off as judgmental but are really preparing you for the immigration experience. We really do have to take ourselves from the equation and look at the big picture when going through this process. It’s the best way to stay focused and be prepared for any hiccups you may face. And yes I agree,@LionessDeon can offer you a firsthand perspective regarding this topic. 

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1 hour ago, TamaraN said:

I agree he should not lie, I do not use marijuana or promote it’s use, however, it is a bit ridiculous to be banned for using a drug in the past, no matter how recent the past is, especially when 1. It is legal in many states for medical or recreational  use and 2. It is not criminalized in the applicants home country and is actually somewhat normal/accepted to use it in his country. It’s not like he is using heroin. Come on.

 

3 minutes ago, TamaraN said:

I realize that. I was commenting on the fact that someone corrected the original poster for calling it ridiculous, because it is a bit ridiculous.

 

There are many things that may seem ridiculous. But there are reason these rules were put in place. It isn't like a group of people had a meeting and just randomly decided to ban anyone with drug history. If you want to get a visa to the US then you have to be drug free. I'm sorry but that is the law. i did not make it. After you get the visa, if you want to move to a state where it is legal... have at it. But immigration is a FEDERAL process, so marijuana is still illegal.

 

What if a person uses both heroin and marijuana in the past, but only admits to using marijuana? Since marijuana is a lesser drug should they be given reprieve? Immigration does not classify which drugs can get a pass. But I have said before that he very well may NOT get a ban.

 

But the most important point I won't to make is that I responded to the "ridiculous" comment as it was a bit hypocritical* when the poster admitted that her fiance was a regular user for 4 years. Not someone who tried it a few times year ago.

 

*OP, don't take the hypocritical comment as a personal attack. It is just a reference. You have thanked everyone for their comments and realize the risk involved with drug use so it seem we have gotten pass any feelings of judgment.

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7 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

 

 

There are many things that may seem ridiculous. But there are reason these rules were put in place. It isn't like a group of people had a meeting and just randomly decided to ban anyone with drug history. If you want to get a visa to the US then you have to be drug free. I'm sorry but that is the law. i did not make it. After you get the visa, if you want to move to a state where it is legal... have at it. But immigration is a FEDERAL process, so marijuana is still illegal.

 

What if a person uses both heroin and marijuana in the past, but only admits to using marijuana? Since marijuana is a lesser drug should they be given reprieve? Immigration does not classify which drugs can get a pass. But I have said before that he very well may NOT get a ban.

 

But the most important point I won't to make is that I responded to the "ridiculous" comment as it was a bit hypocritical* when the poster admitted that her fiance was a regular user for 4 years. Not someone who tried it a few times year ago.

 

*OP, don't take the hypocritical comment as a personal attack. It is just a reference. You have thanked everyone for their comments and realize the risk involved with drug use so it seem we have gotten pass any feelings of judgment.

Using your own logic, if you want to get a visa, you have to be drug free. I’d assume that’s also how Immigration look at it. Say for someone like myself, I’ve only used marijuana 5 times in my life. I can proudly say that I’m drug free. All, I’m saying is to disqualify someone who is currently drug free because of previous uses is ridiculous. I took it personal when one particular poster implied that we’re being deceitful. Nowhere did I mention that we plan on lying. I’ve gone through the immigration process from asylum to naturalization and, I’m fully aware of the consequences of lying. Which why I said, honesty is the best policy regardless of the outcome.  

 

Btw, admitting that he has been using marijuana for 4 yrs, doesn’t mean that he’s a regular; then again regular in this I’d imagine is subjective. In fact, you got it entirely wrong because you made an unnecessary assumption. My fiancé has a well respectable job and his scheduling does not allow him to use it “regular,” as you assume. 

 

We have to be a little bit more sensitive when discussing topics like this. Painting someone as an addict, or assuming so is entirely unnecessary when you do not know have the facts. It easy for one to assume or make judgement about a situation your ignorant about. I fully respect everyone’s opinion. I understand that this forum is diverse and opinions expressed are as such but we ought to be mindful. Once again, I appreciate all the feedback. 

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4 minutes ago, Marlz1844 said:

Using your own logic, if you want to get a visa, you have to be drug free.

But, it's not MY logic. This is immigration's rules we are talking about.

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9 hours ago, Marlz1844 said:

You’re making assumptions and being judgemental.

 

He has always wanted to stop. This is added pressure and an incentive to stop. 

 

He’s making the necessary steps to stay clean. I’m not sure how that equates to him being deceitful.

 

Once people hear drugs, like you did, you assume someone is an addicted. I’ve used marijuana before, does that make me an addict? Be careful of making unnecessary assumptions.

 

No where did I mention that he is planning to lie. Part of taking responsibility is stopping and taking the necessary step to stay clean, which is what he’s doing. 

 

 

This is validation of why the ban is imposed.  He only is quitting or getting clean for immigration purposes. It is the likelihood that he will resume illegal drug use in the US.  

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12 hours ago, NuestraUnion said:

 

Actually it is not ridiculous. Your fiance is trying to hide it by "cleaning" his system now. So quite honestly he is being deceitful. If a drug test was not part of the process then he would continue using it. Saying that it is ridiculous is not seeing the big picture. A person with a history of drug use will likely continue to use it.

 

Getting caught lying will result in a permanent ban. Why can't he take responsibility of his actions and tell the truth. He actually may not get a ban.

Recreational Marijuana is legal in Oregon where I live and according to state statutes is not classified a drug so stop with the self righteousness. The OP's partner can use it if he resides in a state where it's legal to use it.

 

The OP has indicated numerous times that their partner will NOT lie at the interview. What they are asking is whether he will still get a ban despite no traces in his urine/blood etc assuming he stops using it for a long time.

 

'A person with a history of drug use will likely continue to use it' - This statement is neither here nor there and doesn't have any scientific backing so perhaps you should stop pushing it.

 

 

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1 minute ago, ManCharsey said:

Recreational Marijuana is legal in Oregon where I live and according to state statutes is not classified a drug so stop with the self righteousness. The OP can use it if he resides in a state where it's legal to use it.

That has absolutely NO bearing to the OP's question......Immigration is under FEDERAL laws, not what is legal in any state.......Use of marijuana is illegal per FEDERAL law.

 

and yes, he can get a ban even if there no trace in his urine.

Edited October 19, 2017 by missileman

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1 hour ago, Pinkrlion said:

This is validation of why the ban is imposed.  He only is quitting or getting clean for immigration purposes. It is the likelihood that he will resume illegal drug use in the US.  

If he resumes it while he lives in one of the states where it's legal to use marijuana like Oregon, he won't be breaking any laws. 

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Just now, ManCharsey said:

If he resumes it while he lives in one of the states where it's legal to use marijuana like Oregon, he won't be breaking any laws. 

No state laws, yes........but state laws don't control visas.

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5 minutes ago, ManCharsey said:

Recreational Marijuana is legal in Oregon where I live and according to state statutes is not classified a drug so stop with the self righteousness. The OP can use it if he resides in a state where it's legal to use it.

 

The OP has indicated numerous times that their partner will NOT lie at the interview. What they are asking is whether he will still get a ban despite no traces in his urine/blood etc assuming he stops using it for a long time.

 

'A person with a history of drug use will likely continue to use it' - This statement is neither here nor there and doesn't have any scientific backing so perhaps you should stop pushing it.

 

 

What in tarnation are you talking about??? What does Oregon have to do with US immigration? For immigration it is at a FEDERAL LEVEL. Did you not see the post a few post above yours where I said, 

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I'm sorry but that is the law. i did not make it. After you get the visa, if you want to move to a state where it is legal... have at it. But immigration is a FEDERAL process, so marijuana is still illegal.

And it IS true that those who have a history of using drugs have a higher chance of reuse. Same with those who have a history of drinking. Or drinking coffee. 

 

It is not scientifically proven, it is statistically proven. there is a difference.

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

No state laws, yes........but state laws don't control visas.

Not sure what you're talking about.

The statement I replied to was about the guy resuming it when he's here.

Simple answer : Illegal in states where it's illegal, Legal in the states that legalize it. No laws broken if this is followed.

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3 minutes ago, ManCharsey said:

Not sure what you're talking about.

The statement I replied to was about the guy resuming it when he's here.

Simple answer : Illegal in states where it's illegal, Legal in the states that legalize it. No laws broken if this is followed.

 

But the issue is that a person can't even get a US visa to enter in those states if they have a history of using drugs because it is against FEDERAL LAW. I posted several threads where people were banned from obtaining visas because of it.

Edited October 19, 2017 by NuestraUnion

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2 minutes ago, ManCharsey said:

Not sure what you're talking about.

The statement I replied to was about the guy resuming it when he's here.

Simple answer : Illegal in states where it's illegal, Legal in the states that legalize it. No laws broken if this is followed.

1.  This ENTIRE thread concerns the person getting a visa to immigrate to the US, not what he does afterwards.

2.  Use of marijuana is a violation of FEDERAL law....in any state.

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29 minutes ago, ManCharsey said:

Simple answer : Illegal in states where it's illegal, Legal in the states that legalize it. No laws broken if this is followed.

That's not how it works...

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On 19/10/2017 at 1:53 AM, Marlz1844 said:

 

Only if the presence of marijuana is detected right? What is if, it isn’t? Will he still get the one year ban for being honest? 

Marijuana can stay in the blood for 3 day when you use it regularly and the trace of THC can stay for 120 day in the urine test