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F-1 student married LPR. Pending AOS. Do I have to maintain Full-time status?

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1 minute ago, geowrian said:

Inaccurate. It's only up to the time of filing. See https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume7-PartB-Chapter3.html.

 

Not entirely accurate either. You are permitted to file for AOS based on the USCIS filing charts, not based on the PD being current. See https://www.uscis.gov/visabulletininfo. It states to use the "Dates for Filing", not "Final Action Dates" chart. As long as AOS was filed while meeting their filing dates criteria, it should be accepted and adjudicated fine.

Thanks. And this applies to both USC spouse and LPR spouse?

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4 minutes ago, SamSam85 said:

Thanks. And this applies to both USC spouse and LPR spouse?

A USC's spouse doesn't use these charts as their PD is always current (there is no wait for an immigrant visa number for an immediate relative petition). Those charts are only for LPRs and non-IRs of USCs (who also have to maintain status until they file).

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Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Just now, geowrian said:

A USC spouse doesn't use these charts as their PD is always current (there is no wait for an immigrant visa number for an immediate relative petition). Those charts are only for LPRs and non-IR USCs (who also have to maintain status until they file).

ok so my understanding is correct. I am now pending AOS. I can reduce my F-1 workload to part-time. I will go out of status. However, since I was valid status at the time of filing (and few months afterwards), this would not impact my AOS interview (hopefully). The only risk I am taking is if there is (god forbid) an AOS denial (which would result me having to leave the country)

5 minutes ago, f f said:

usc do not need to wait since there is an unlimited number of visas for spouses and minor children so they are always current. 

did you see my response to your questions? do you still think I made a mistake?

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3 minutes ago, SamSam85 said:

ok so my understanding is correct. I am now pending AOS. I can reduce my F-1 workload to part-time. I will go out of status. However, since I was valid status at the time of filing (and few months afterwards), this would not impact my AOS interview (hopefully). The only risk I am taking is if there is (god forbid) an AOS denial (which would result me having to leave the country)

Out of status: yes. But you will have authorized stay and will not accrue unlawful presence while your I-485 is pending. The potential issue is if your AOS is denied then you won't qualify to re-file (since you will then have unlawful presence at the time of filing).

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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1 hour ago, SamSam85 said:

ok so my understanding is correct. I am now pending AOS. I can reduce my F-1 workload to part-time. I will go out of status. However, since I was valid status at the time of filing (and few months afterwards), this would not impact my AOS interview (hopefully). The only risk I am taking is if there is (god forbid) an AOS denial (which would result me having to leave the country)

did you see my response to your questions? do you still think I made a mistake?

according to the current visa bulletin you were able to file so based on television dates given you should be good from that perspective.

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/law-and-policy/bulletin/2018/visa-bulletin-for-october-2017.html

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1 minute ago, f f said:

according to the current visa bulletin you were able to file so based on television dates given you should be good from that perspective.

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/law-and-policy/bulletin/2018/visa-bulletin-for-october-2017.html

Thanks a lot. I will talk to International Student Advisor in the school, and give him my I-485 receipt notice. Hopefully he would understand the situation and mark my SEVIS record as "pending AOS" instead of just cancelling it altogether.

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10 hours ago, SamSam85 said:

Thanks a lot. I will talk to International Student Advisor in the school, and give him my I-485 receipt notice. Hopefully he would understand the situation and mark my SEVIS record as "pending AOS" instead of just cancelling it altogether.

As far as I know you are either F-1 or you are not. When you reduce your course load to less than 12 credits a semester then you are no longer F-1 and your college will cancel SEVIS. It should not matter however since you will now have i-485 authorized stay. The only downside to this is if you are denied AOS, you have no fall back position and will have to leave the country.

When will/can your spouse naturalize?

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4 minutes ago, azblk said:

As far as I know you are either F-1 or you are not. When you reduce your course load to less than 12 credits a semester then you are no longer F-1 and your college will cancel SEVIS. It should not matter however since you will now have i-485 authorized stay. The only downside to this is if you are denied AOS, you have no fall back position and will have to leave the country.

When will/can your spouse naturalize?

After 1.5 years he will naturalize.

If AOS gets denied (god forbid), we can't file a motion to reopen? or file for F-1 reinstatement?

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4 minutes ago, SamSam85 said:

After 1.5 years he will naturalize.

If AOS gets denied (god forbid), we can't file a motion to reopen? or file for F-1 reinstatement?

You can not get F-1 reinstatement after filing for AOS as F-1 is not a dual intent visa. Theoretically you can file a motion to reopen depending on the reasons for the denial.

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21 minutes ago, SamSam85 said:

After 1.5 years he will naturalize.

If AOS gets denied (god forbid), we can't file a motion to reopen? or file for F-1 reinstatement?

If AOS is denied, you will start accumulating unlawful presence. Getting F-1 with this is unlikely IMO. Plus having a past AOS application is a strong sign of immigrant intent, which is not permitted on F-1.

An MTR is possible if the denial is due to an error with adjudication of the I-485 (and there is sufficient evidence supporting the reason for denial was incorrect).

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

If AOS is denied, you will start accumulating unlawful presence. Getting F-1 with this is unlikely IMO. Plus having a past AOS application is a strong sign of immigrant intent, which is not permitted on F-1.

An MTR is possible if the denial is due to an error with adjudication of the I-485 (and there is sufficient evidence supporting the reason for denial was incorrect).

 

21 minutes ago, azblk said:

You can not get F-1 reinstatement after filing for AOS as F-1 is not a dual intent visa. Theoretically you can file a motion to reopen depending on the reasons for the denial.

 

Well, this is just me thinking worst case scenario :) let's hope it doesn't come to that and it gets approved without much trouble :) All, I wanted to make sure of is that during the AOS interview, they don't give me hard time for reducing my workload to part-time after I filed AOS, lol

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4 minutes ago, SamSam85 said:

 

 

Well, this is just me thinking worst case scenario :) let's hope it doesn't come to that and it gets approved without much trouble :) All, I wanted to make sure of is that during the AOS interview, they don't give me hard time for reducing my workload to part-time after I filed AOS, lol

Good luck and you should be fine

 

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On 10/16/2017 at 10:27 AM, geowrian said:

If AOS is denied, you will start accumulating unlawful presence. Getting F-1 with this is unlikely IMO. Plus having a past AOS application is a strong sign of immigrant intent, which is not permitted on F-1.

An MTR is possible if the denial is due to an error with adjudication of the I-485 (and there is sufficient evidence supporting the reason for denial was incorrect).

Hi man, quick question if you don't mind. If I graduate/stop attending school, how would immigration people differentiate between someone who has a pending AOS and is authorized to stay and someone who is out of status and must leave the US?

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