Draft of New HHS Strategic Plan Says Life Begins ‘at Conception’

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, smilesammich said:

well that will cost too much money. there must be a simpler way to give men total power over when and where a woman conceives. it might start with birth control in the water, i think that was brought up the other day.

 

Why not just outlaw sex (a) outside the marriage, and (b) not intended for reproduction. That would prevent those pregnancies caused by women forgetting to shut down during sex. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

Why not just outlaw sex (a) outside the marriage, and (b) not intended for reproduction. That would prevent those pregnancies caused by women forgetting to shut down during sex. 

that would make all those women tryina trap men into marriage with a baby way too happy. sex must not be infringed.

Edited October 13, 2017 by smilesammich

[CaliCat 3,957]

5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

that would make all those women tryina trap men into marriage with a baby way too happy. sex must not be infringed.

 

We can redact the law:

 

Why not just outlaw sex (a) outside the marriage, (b) not intended for reproduction, and (c) resulting in pregnancy without written authorization by the male.  

 

Edited October 13, 2017 by CaliCat

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 hour ago, CaliCat said:

 

We can redact the law:

 

Why not just outlaw sex (a) outside the marriage, (b) not intended for reproduction, and (c) resulting in pregnancy without written authorization by the male.  

 

you forgot to capitalize the m.

 

seriously. what a crock..from 'conception to natural death'

 

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First, the definition of life stuff. The current HHS strategic plan for 2014 to 2018 says:

 

HHS accomplishes its mission through programs and initiatives that cover a wide spectrum of activities, serving Americans at every stage of life.

 

The new draft says (emphasis added):

 

HHS accomplishes its mission through programs and initiatives that cover a wide spectrum of activities, serving and protecting Americans at every stage of life , beginning at conception.

 

Conception as the start of life is mentioned again in goal #3, which also seems to reflect the anti-euthanasia views of former Americans United for Life president and current HHS assistant secretary of public affairs, Charmaine Yoest:

 

"A core component of the HHS mission is our dedication to serve all Americans from conception to natural death."

https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/yw397w/government-hhs-now-says-life-begins-at-conception

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 hours ago, smilesammich said:

that would make all those women tryina trap men into marriage with a baby way too happy. sex must not be infringed.

You mean trap into child support payments 

[CaliCat 3,957]

19 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

you forgot to capitalize the m.

 

seriously. what a crock..from 'conception to natural death'

 

https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/yw397w/government-hhs-now-says-life-begins-at-conception

 

 

Funny thing. They purport to serve Americans at every stage of life, yet why don't we have universal health care in the US?

 

Natural death? Isn't euthanasia natural? As far as I am concerned, it's my birth right to decide if and when to make an exit. The same government that refuses to provide me with universal healthcare can't presume to tell me when and how my life should end. That's my business. 

 

Talk about a failed mission statement! LOL.

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

You mean trap into child support payments 

yes, there's nothing more lucrative than child support payments when raising a child. cash in pocket, ya heard me?

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

Funny thing. They purport to serve Americans at every stage of life, yet why don't we have universal health care in the US?

 

Natural death? Isn't euthanasia natural? As far as I am concerned, it's my birth right to decide if and when to make an exit. The same government that refuses to provide me with universal healthcare can't presume to tell me when and how my life should end. That's my business. 

 

Talk about a failed mission statement! LOL.

 

 

i totally agree with you. unfortunately the crazy has been fully unleashed upon our government and we must now all bow and do as they see fit. safety first then teamwork.

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, smilesammich said:

i totally agree with you. unfortunately the crazy has been fully unleashed upon our government and we must now all bow and do as they see fit. safety first then teamwork.

 

Three more years. We can handle it. 

[eieio 1,594]

6 hours ago, bcking said:

I'm sorry if the medical information is a bit over your head.

 

It is estimated that 30-50% of "conceptions" end in spontaneous abortion. I know abortion is a buzz word and that may get you all russled up, but a "spontaneous abortion" is a miscarriage. Something that can happen without any clear identifiable cause. Something that a woman has very little control over.

 

So if life begins at conception, that means 30-50% of ALL HUMAN LIFE ends in spontaneous abortion. 30-50% of all human life die before before born. If they were truly "living" and they "died", who is responsible? The mother was their caretaker during the pregnancy, so is she not liable in some way?

 

I know you were trying to be "sarcastically dramatic" when you said millions will die. However, the reality is millions will be dying if life is defined by fertilization of an egg.

 

OMG…The horror!  Call the police!!

[Boiler 46,119]

4 hours ago, CaliCat said:

 

Three more years. We can handle it. 

Seven?

[bcking 3,157]

40 minutes ago, eieio said:

OMG…The horror!  Call the police!!

Someone's awfully flippant about 30-50% of the US population dying.

 

What happened to every life is sacred? What happened to the "horror" of abortions? They kill far far far less than miscarriages do.

 

Seems a little hypocritical.

[Boiler 46,119]

3 minutes ago, bcking said:

Someone's awfully flippant about 30-50% of the US population dying.

 

What happened to every life is sacred? What happened to the "horror" of abortions? They kill far far far less than miscarriages do.

 

Seems a little hypocritical.

Whole thing sounds very weird.

[bcking 3,157]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Whole thing sounds very weird.

What's weird?

 

Life begins at conception.

 

An estimated 30-50% of fertilizer embryos are spontaneously aborted.

 

Therefore, that 30-50% all die.

 

Therefore 30-50% of the US population die before birth.

 

 

[Boiler 46,119]

2 minutes ago, bcking said:

What's weird?

 

Life begins at conception.

 

An estimated 30-50% of fertilizer embryos are spontaneously aborted.

 

Therefore, that 30-50% all die.

 

Therefore 30-50% of the US population die before birth.

 

 

Yep weird.