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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Morocco
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OK VJers, asking for a woman at my mosque that I know who has this issue. I will relay any questions about info that I leave out and update as needed.

 

This is the situation. Woman was married to her ex husband at a young age, I think 18-19, was very ignorant about the whole AOS process and took husband's word that he and his first wife got an annulment; he and first wife had never filed for his AOS. He prepared all of the AOS documents himself and she signed, they interviewed, he got the 2yr GC, 10yr and eventually naturalized. Husband joined the military somewhere in that time period, I didn't ask what branch because it didn't seem like it mattered. Years go by, the guy's first wife shows up and informs her that he never got any annulment, in fact the guy had been dodging her and apparently denying her a legal divorce. Woman finds out and woman leaves shortly after, filing her own divorce from him right after he files for divorce from the first wife. Two divorces in a very short time. First wife wanted to get remarried so this is why she finally sought him out. No clue what he listed on AOS, annulled, never married, etc.

 

This guy managed to get his GC and become a citizen somehow while being a bigamist. None of the divorces or first wife showing up happened til after citizenship. Doesn't this make all of his status void somehow? Does it make his status void even if he has been a citizen for many years? Woman wants to know if USCIS ever found this out, would she be in trouble somehow herself for attending the interview with him and taking his word on the annulment? She says she does not have plans to report him but she worries that USCIS would somehow find out about his bigamy eventually and because she was the petitioner, she will go down with him despite not knowing.

Edited by sparkles_

**Adjusting from initial Q1/changed to B1 then overstay, termination of removal proceedings**

(STAND ALONE i-130/TERMINATION OF REMOVAL)

First met: Totally random by asking for directions, June 2014 while on vacation at Disney World (L)

Engaged: Aug. 21, 2014

Married: Dec. 1, 2014

ICE phone contact: sometime in early Dec. 2014- Co-operated, retained attorney who advised the same.

Filed stand alone i-130: January 2015 (VSC)

ICE home visit, schedule time to go to DHS office and NTA issued, date TBD, was not detained and released on own recognizance within an hour: January, 2015.

NOA1: Feb. 20, 2015.

Transfer to CSC to balance workloads: August 2015

1)First Master Calendar Hearing: Sept. 9, 2015-Continued based on pending i-130, new court date in 6mo.

Congressional Inquiry: Dec 8. 2015

***i-130 APPROVED WITHOUT INTERVIEW: Dec. 21, 2015** :dancing:

2)Second Master Hearing: March 9, 2016- Removal proceedings terminated w/o prejudice based on approved i-130!! Remanded to USCIS to begin AOS process :dance:

(AOS AFTER TERMINATION)

Filed AOS packet: March 16, 2016.

NOA1: March 21, 2016.

Biometrics: April 20, 2016.

RFE Initial evidence: April 21, 2016 for birth cert/translation and Q1/B1 i94s

RFE response received: May 10, 2016.

EAD approval: May 25, 2016- Card arrived at attorney's office! Could not pick up until May 30 because we were at Disney World again :):D

Notice of missing medical exam: July 2016 (Done on purpose to avoid expiration, we will bring it to the interview as stated in notice)

Inquiry about case status: Sept 2016- Case pending interview at local office.

Inquiry about case status again: Oct. 2016- Due to factors not related to your case, anticipate a delay in processing

HAPPY 2YR ANNIVERSARY TO US!!

Infopass #1 at local office: Dec. 19, 2016- Case pending background/security checks, advised when to renew EAD #2

Waiting on interview at local office...... :clock:

Sent EAD renewal: Feb 10, 2016

EAD#2 NOA1: March 3, 2016

INTERVIEW SCHEDULED!!: interview on March 27, 2017

Text notification, new card being produced: March 29, 2017!!!

*~*~*~*818 DAYS TOTAL*~*~*~

"A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor."

 
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If there's no evidence pointing to her knowing about the other marriage still existing, then I don't see anything coming back at her. She's a victim, not an accomplice IMO.

 

The legal statuses people obtained via the illegal marriage are not void, but if USCIS does pursue it, they can attempt to have them revoked in court. It's not common for them to fight this for somebody who has naturalized, but it certainly would not be the first case.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Morocco
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7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

If there's no evidence pointing to her knowing about the other marriage still existing, then I don't see anything coming back at her. She's a victim, not an accomplice IMO.

 

The legal statuses people obtained via the illegal marriage are not void, but if USCIS does pursue it, they can attempt to have them revoked in court. It's not common for them to fight this for somebody who has naturalized, but it certainly would not be the first case.

Thanks for the quick reply. This seemed to be her only worry, if somehow it was brought to the attention of USCIS, if it ever came to the revocation point, would she be facing some sort of legal trouble along with him. I told her the same, unless she knew and there is evidence out there that shows it, it seemed more like she was scammed in a way, but wanted to ask and see if anyone knew more

Edited by sparkles_

**Adjusting from initial Q1/changed to B1 then overstay, termination of removal proceedings**

(STAND ALONE i-130/TERMINATION OF REMOVAL)

First met: Totally random by asking for directions, June 2014 while on vacation at Disney World (L)

Engaged: Aug. 21, 2014

Married: Dec. 1, 2014

ICE phone contact: sometime in early Dec. 2014- Co-operated, retained attorney who advised the same.

Filed stand alone i-130: January 2015 (VSC)

ICE home visit, schedule time to go to DHS office and NTA issued, date TBD, was not detained and released on own recognizance within an hour: January, 2015.

NOA1: Feb. 20, 2015.

Transfer to CSC to balance workloads: August 2015

1)First Master Calendar Hearing: Sept. 9, 2015-Continued based on pending i-130, new court date in 6mo.

Congressional Inquiry: Dec 8. 2015

***i-130 APPROVED WITHOUT INTERVIEW: Dec. 21, 2015** :dancing:

2)Second Master Hearing: March 9, 2016- Removal proceedings terminated w/o prejudice based on approved i-130!! Remanded to USCIS to begin AOS process :dance:

(AOS AFTER TERMINATION)

Filed AOS packet: March 16, 2016.

NOA1: March 21, 2016.

Biometrics: April 20, 2016.

RFE Initial evidence: April 21, 2016 for birth cert/translation and Q1/B1 i94s

RFE response received: May 10, 2016.

EAD approval: May 25, 2016- Card arrived at attorney's office! Could not pick up until May 30 because we were at Disney World again :):D

Notice of missing medical exam: July 2016 (Done on purpose to avoid expiration, we will bring it to the interview as stated in notice)

Inquiry about case status: Sept 2016- Case pending interview at local office.

Inquiry about case status again: Oct. 2016- Due to factors not related to your case, anticipate a delay in processing

HAPPY 2YR ANNIVERSARY TO US!!

Infopass #1 at local office: Dec. 19, 2016- Case pending background/security checks, advised when to renew EAD #2

Waiting on interview at local office...... :clock:

Sent EAD renewal: Feb 10, 2016

EAD#2 NOA1: March 3, 2016

INTERVIEW SCHEDULED!!: interview on March 27, 2017

Text notification, new card being produced: March 29, 2017!!!

*~*~*~*818 DAYS TOTAL*~*~*~

"A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor."

 
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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Morocco
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according to reading post in USCIS if both commit fraud like say USC takes money to help someone get a visa knowing they will divorce after, then yes, both can be in trouble

but usually immigration considers the USC was, as you point out, scammed 

i would point this out to judge in divorce court and if not able to get a proper settlement, i would take it to civil court in  a lawsuit to claim lost money on the visa process

of course all this makes each case in immigration harder to get approved

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This is a case for a good immigration lawyer, not a do it yourself forum.  

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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Filed: Other Country: Saudi Arabia
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On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 8:13 PM, sparkles_ said:

OK VJers, asking for a woman at my mosque that I know who has this issue. I will relay any questions about info that I leave out and update as needed.

 

This is the situation. Woman was married to her ex husband at a young age, I think 18-19, was very ignorant about the whole AOS process and took husband's word that he and his first wife got an annulment; he and first wife had never filed for his AOS. He prepared all of the AOS documents himself and she signed, they interviewed, he got the 2yr GC, 10yr and eventually naturalized. Husband joined the military somewhere in that time period, I didn't ask what branch because it didn't seem like it mattered. Years go by, the guy's first wife shows up and informs her that he never got any annulment, in fact the guy had been dodging her and apparently denying her a legal divorce. Woman finds out and woman leaves shortly after, filing her own divorce from him right after he files for divorce from the first wife. Two divorces in a very short time. First wife wanted to get remarried so this is why she finally sought him out. No clue what he listed on AOS, annulled, never married, etc.

 

This guy managed to get his GC and become a citizen somehow while being a bigamist. None of the divorces or first wife showing up happened til after citizenship. Doesn't this make all of his status void somehow? Does it make his status void even if he has been a citizen for many years? Woman wants to know if USCIS ever found this out, would she be in trouble somehow herself for attending the interview with him and taking his word on the annulment? She says she does not have plans to report him but she worries that USCIS would somehow find out about his bigamy eventually and because she was the petitioner, she will go down with him despite not knowing.

Technically and legally if USCIS found out about and pursued this then both of them can lose their benefits and citizenship retroactively as her marriage was never legally valid in the first place and bigamy is specifically defined as a crime of moral turpitude.

 

Whether he prepared the AOS or not it is (technically and legally) the immigrant who files to adjust status and signs it. 

Edited by Nitas_man
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