CRBA US Embassy Manila preparation

[Jeanine84 0]

Hello all

I got an email from us embassy manila saying i am missing proof of residence in US for 1 year continuous but how can that be when i submitted my high school transcript (4 years) and 2005 w2 with 1040 2008.

 

Any advice? I'm a us citizen (born and raised in USA) mother, residing in the Philippines since 2012, i have since gained dual citizenship in the Philippines through recognition from my mother who was born in Pi. 

The father of the children is not a US citizen. 

[jayjayj 571]

Your high school transcripts should have been enough.  Is it possible they didn't see the transcripts?

[Jeanine84 0]

7 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

Your high school transcripts should have been enough.  Is it possible they didn't see the transcripts?

That is what i was thinking they may have overlooked it as i sent two crba applications for both my children. It was attached to my tax returns. I assume ill just bring all documents on the interview date.

They also ask for proof of relationship between the father and i. We are NOT married. And do not have much except for pictures. Will this be an issue?

Thank you

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, Jeanine84 said:

That is what i was thinking they may have overlooked it as i sent two crba applications for both my children. It was attached to my tax returns. I assume ill just bring all documents on the interview date.

They also ask for proof of relationship between the father and i. We are NOT married. And do not have much except for pictures. Will this be an issue?

Thank you

What did the letter say in regards to the appointment?  Did it tell you to bring the documents with you or send them in prior?  

 

Your relationship with the father shouldn't matter, as you are the U.S. citizen and the mother.  You've already establish paternity, by giving birth.  Relationship evidence would only be required if you were the father and not married to the foreign mother.

[Jeanine84 0]

16 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

What did the letter say in regards to the appointment?  Did it tell you to bring the documents with you or send them in prior?  

 

Your relationship with the father shouldn't matter, as you are the U.S. citizen and the mother.  You've already establish paternity, by giving birth.  Relationship evidence would only be required if you were the father and not married to the foreign mother.

During our review of your mail-in packet, we found that you are still missing the following documents:
 
Evidence of U.S. citizen parent’s physical presence/residence in the United States – ONE year continuous
Photos of mother while pregnant
Evidence of parents’ presence in the same location at the time of conception
Additional Evidence of parents’ relationship prior to the date of conception
 
Please bring the child/applicant, photos, originals of all required documents, I.D, and all application fees with you on the day of your appointment.  Consult the attached CRBA checklist for more detailed information on the required documents. Applicants who fail to show up for their scheduled appointments will need to start the appointment request process from the beginning.

 

That's what was said. Do you think its possible they overlooked the us citizen parent is the mother? I have a few pregnancy check up reports with drs stamp that i had mailed in for my youngest child. I didn't include any for my oldest. 

[jayjayj 571]

2 minutes ago, Jeanine84 said:

During our review of your mail-in packet, we found that you are still missing the following documents:
 
Evidence of U.S. citizen parent’s physical presence/residence in the United States – ONE year continuous
Photos of mother while pregnant
Evidence of parents’ presence in the same location at the time of conception
Additional Evidence of parents’ relationship prior to the date of conception
 
Please bring the child/applicant, photos, originals of all required documents, I.D, and all application fees with you on the day of your appointment.  Consult the attached CRBA checklist for more detailed information on the required documents. Applicants who fail to show up for their scheduled appointments will need to start the appointment request process from the beginning.

 

That's what was said. Do you think its possible they overlooked the us citizen parent is the mother? I have a few pregnancy check up reports with drs stamp that i had mailed in for my youngest child. I didn't include any for my oldest. 

I think they overlooked something.  They are asking for some things that are only relevant if you are the father and not married.  Just take all your evidence with you and you should be fine.  Take some items proving you were pregnant, just to be safe, but I can't imagine them not accepting a certified birth certificate.

[Jeanine84 0]

24 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

I think they overlooked something.  They are asking for some things that are only relevant if you are the father and not married.  Just take all your evidence with you and you should be fine.  Take some items proving you were pregnant, just to be safe, but I can't imagine them not accepting a certified birth certificate.

Ok. Thank you!

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[jan22 3,049]

Somme inaccurate informati9n in Ither posts.  They most likely saw and reviewed all of your documents.  However, neither W-2s nor transcripts prove one year of continuous presence, as there are school holidays and vacations when you could have left the US. 

 

I assume the children were born before June 11, 2017 (the requirements changed then).  They are asking you for information concerning your relationship with the father to make sure they are adjudicating your case under the right section of the law.  For children born out-of-wedlock (sorry, that's the term used in the law) to a US citizen mother, the requirement prior to June 2017 is to show one full year (365 days) in which you never left the US.  You need to fill in the time of school holidays and summers or find some other way to document you did not leave the US within athe least one one-year period before the birth of your child.  This is not an easy task, but it is the requirement.

 

And, they are asking you to show evidence that you were pregnant to help confirm that the children are, in fact, your biological children.  There are a lot of fraudulent cases in the world where a woman will claim to be the biological mother of a child to gain US citizenship when the child is not actually hers by birth.

Edited October 11, 2017 by jan22

[Jeanine84 0]

6 hours ago, jan22 said:

Somme inaccurate informati9n in Ither posts.  They most likely saw and reviewed all of your documents.  However, neither W-2s nor transcripts prove one year of continuous presence, as there are school holidays and vacations when you could have left the US. 

 

I assume the children were born before June 11, 2017 (the requirements changed then).  They are asking you for information concerning your relationship with the father to make sure they are adjudicating your case under the right section of the law.  For children born out-of-wedlock (sorry, that's the term used in the law) to a US citizen mother, the requirement prior to June 2017 is to show one full year (365 days) in which you never left the US.  You need to fill in the time of school holidays and summers or find some other way to document you did not leave the US within athe least one one-year period before the birth of your child.  This is not an easy task, but it is the requirement.

 

And, they are asking you to show evidence that you were pregnant to help confirm that the children are, in fact, your biological children.  There are a lot of fraudulent cases in the world where a woman will claim to be the biological mother of a child to gain US citizenship when the child is not actually hers by birth.

Hmm this is the first time ive heard of that particular way of documenting. Is there any references i can look at for example of just how to do that? 

I gave 4years hs transcript and 2years worth of tax return. 

I couldn't possibly graduate school if i spent all my time out of the country. ( im just saying, not trying to contradict what you said) 

 

I also gave passport copies of exit, i think from there you can see times i must have spent in the us.  

 

I will try to obtain copies of my high school report cards. I believe there is attendance in class on there. 

 

Thank you..

Edited October 11, 2017 by Jeanine84

[Jeanine84 0]

Ok. on my passport  in 2009 i visited the Philippines in April, my departure date from Philippines is May 01 2009 i went to the Philippines again in May 07 2010

Is that enough proof that ive been in USA for 1 year consecutive? 

May 01 2009 to May 07 2010?

 

Ive been in the Philippines since may 07 2010 only returning to US 12 2011 and back to Philippines 01 2012 to present. 

 

Thank you!

[jan22 3,049]

53 minutes ago, Jeanine84 said:

Ok. on my passport  in 2009 i visited the Philippines in April, my departure date from Philippines is May 01 2009 i went to the Philippines again in May 07 2010

Is that enough proof that ive been in USA for 1 year consecutive? 

May 01 2009 to May 07 2010?

 

Ive been in the Philippines since may 07 2010 only returning to US 12 2011 and back to Philippines 01 2012 to present. 

 

Thank you!

First, a quick question:  When were the children born?  Your 1 year has to have been prior to their birth.

 

Although it's a really good start, the passort alone is not enough. You may not have visited the Philippines during that period, but that doesn't prove you didn't leave the US.  You could have gone someplace else, where your passport was not stamped, during that time.  Do you have things like work records, tax records, medical records, etc. that help show you were completely US-based during that time?

 

[jan22 3,049]

3 hours ago, Jeanine84 said:

Hmm this is the first time ive heard of that particular way of documenting. Is there any references i can look at for example of just how to do that? 

I gave 4years hs transcript and 2years worth of tax return. 

I couldn't possibly graduate school if i spent all my time out of the country. ( im just saying, not trying to contradict what you said) 

 

I also gave passport copies of exit, i think from there you can see times i must have spent in the us.  

 

I will try to obtain copies of my high school report cards. I believe there is attendance in class on there. 

 

Thank you..

Nobody is saying you spent all of your time out of the country....but graduating school doesn't prove you did not spend a few days outside the US during those 4 years.  

[Jeanine84 0]

3 hours ago, jan22 said:

First, a quick question:  When were the children born?  Your 1 year has to have been prior to their birth.

 

Although it's a really good start, the passort alone is not enough. You may not have visited the Philippines during that period, but that doesn't prove you didn't leave the US.  You could have gone someplace else, where your passport was not stamped, during that time.  Do you have things like work records, tax records, medical records, etc. that help show you were completely US-based during that time?

 

I was a stay at home mother to my first child at that time( not the  two children for crba, she was born in the usa) i dont really have anything during that time, can only find joint tax return with my ex husband in 2008. Which i already submitted.  My children applying for crba were born in 2015 and 2017.

[jan22 3,049]

11 hours ago, Jeanine84 said:

I was a stay at home mother to my first child at that time( not the  two children for crba, she was born in the usa) i dont really have anything during that time, can only find joint tax return with my ex husband in 2008. Which i already submitted.  My children applying for crba were born in 2015 and 2017.

Do you have any records from yourself or that first child -- medical, church (baptism, confirmation, etc), dated photos from the major holidays that year (especially if they were clearly taken in the same house)?  While you, obviously, can't document every single day, all of these sorts of things will help show a pattern that becomes part of the whole picture, especially when the passport record is added to it.

 

And, I assume the child born in 2017 was born before June 11?  If after, the required documentation is different.

Edited October 12, 2017 by jan22