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Trying to bring my mother and father to visit me on a tourist visa. They are both retired, don't want to immigrate (even know we could get them green card), have property and bank accounts, etc,etc. They applied last year and got their application declined. We want to apply again this year. So I've got few questions:

1. I'm waiting for my I--751 at the moment. Does it have any influence on their application?

2. My husband is US citizen, and we're planning to visit my country around their interview time. Could he attend the interview with my parents and would that help?

3. When they went to the interview last year they brought all the supplemental paperwork with them, but the officer wouldn't even look at it, he already had a refusal letter ready. What can we do to raise their chances?

4. Is 1 year enough waiting time before applying again?

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  1. No
  2. No, it won't help and I'm doubtful he would be permitted to attend. The applicants have to qualify on their own and I'm not sure what benefit could be obtained by being there.
  3. That's pretty typical. The key items they are looking for are already on the DS-160. If it's borderline, they're more likely to look at documentation. To raise their chances, they need to show stronger ties to their home country. What has changed since the last time they applied?
  4. Yes, I personally think it's long enough that the past refusal won't inherently seem like asking the CO to overrule their coworker. But it really comes down to showing different circumstances, not a length of time.
Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Concur with @geowrian

 

They have to go through this on there own. They have to show their ties to their country. It is natural to want to help.

 

One year is plenty of time to reapply but, like said, what has changed in their situation since the last interview.

“When starting an immigration journey, the best advice is to understand that sacrifices have to be made... whether it is time, money, or separation; or a combination of all.” - Unlockable

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17 hours ago, NuestraUnion said:

Concur with @geowrian

 

They have to go through this on there own. They have to show their ties to their country. It is natural to want to help.

 

One year is plenty of time to reapply but, like said, what has changed in their situation since the last interview.

 

17 hours ago, NuestraUnion said:

Concur with @geowrian

 

They have to go through this on there own. They have to show their ties to their country. It is natural to want to help.

 

One year is plenty of time to reapply but, like said, what has changed in their situation since the last interview.

Thank you. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, there's not much you can put on DS-160, except place of work (which they don't have , but they get a pension) and inviting side - which is still the same - me and my husband. This time we want to try going with affidavit of support, don't know if it is going to do any difference.

There's all kinds of paperwork about their ties to the country, but that is all in that supplemental part that the embassy doesn't want to look at. And you can't attach anything to your application. How to break this circle though?

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An affidavit of support is more likely to show a tie to stay in the US instead of a cause to return home.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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 If USCIS wanted to see an affidavit of support or any other documents from you and your husband, there would be forms and a place on the online application for you to do it. It is just that simple. You are trying to do more than what they are looking for. And like @geowrian said,  too much will only show that you are willing to support your parents if they decide to use the visitor visa to live in the US. 

 

You have to understand why obtaining a visitor visa is difficult for citizens in certain countries. It is because previous applicants that had visas abused them by living and/or working. Even babysitting a relative in the US is considered working. It is tough to prove to a CO, who is going to think that every applicant is going to eventually abuse their visa, that for the next 10 years or more (usual validity of a visitor visa) that your retired parents (who at this point in their life have plenty of time on their hands) will only make short trips to visit you every year or so while your family continues to grow.

 

 

“When starting an immigration journey, the best advice is to understand that sacrifices have to be made... whether it is time, money, or separation; or a combination of all.” - Unlockable

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17 hours ago, NuestraUnion said:

 If USCIS wanted to see an affidavit of support or any other documents from you and your husband, there would be forms and a place on the online application for you to do it. It is just that simple. You are trying to do more than what they are looking for. And like @geowrian said,  too much will only show that you are willing to support your parents if they decide to use the visitor visa to live in the US. 

 

You have to understand why obtaining a visitor visa is difficult for citizens in certain countries. It is because previous applicants that had visas abused them by living and/or working. Even babysitting a relative in the US is considered working. It is tough to prove to a CO, who is going to think that every applicant is going to eventually abuse their visa, that for the next 10 years or more (usual validity of a visitor visa) that your retired parents (who at this point in their life have plenty of time on their hands) will only make short trips to visit you every year or so while your family continues to grow.

 

 

Yeah, I totally understand that.  My parents country is definitely on the list of countries with people that abused their visas too many times (ongoing military conflict is not a benefit either, haha). So how to prove the CO (without showing too much effort) that they don't want to stay? Because that's what we did first time pretty much and it didn't work. 

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22 hours ago, geowrian said:

An affidavit of support is more likely to show a tie to stay in the US instead of a cause to return home.

So is there anything to do except filling out same application again? I mentioned in the previous post that I'm dealing with country where people constantly compromise their visa time and that has a little proxy war. Green card or refugee status is not an option because they only want to visit.

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