I-751 October 2017 filers

[mister-love 31]

2 minutes ago, I751_HK said:

What are they asking for in your case ?

They told me i sent a letter showing we have join account, but not showing transactions ans statments.  And also they want more proofs we live in the same address like lease, bills....

[mister-love 31]

They are sending a lot of RFE lately because our cases took soo long to be process, so they need updated informations, or they are just trying to buy time to treat other priority cases. 

[GBOS 198]

@mister-love - on the upside, RFE is better than the interview.  If they send file for an interview, the wait could be forever.

[I751_HK 33]

Just now, mister-love said:

They are sending a lot of RFE lately because our cases took soo long to be process, so they need updated informations, or they are just trying to buy time to treat other priority cases. 

Yes that's what I noticed . They are just randomly sending RFE this month. Are you planning to get letter from bank right ? Did you file originally in CA ? I assume , most of the stuff that they are asking for looks very generic and you already sent those before . ?

[mister-love 31]

2 minutes ago, I751_HK said:

Yes that's what I noticed . They are just randomly sending RFE this month. Are you planning to get letter from bank right ? Did you file originally in CA ? I assume , most of the stuff that they are asking for looks very generic and you already sent those before . ?

I i already requested statements and already print them all from 2017-2019.

I did file for cali and was xfer to Vermont. So don't just send a letter but send all the statements with transactions. Send the new joint tax return and evidences that you live in the same address.  

[dilip 187]

1 hour ago, saedmansaed said:

i  already wait 16 moth   i just got the green card 

Yes, it is sad, it is a waiting game , like I am waiting for Game of thrones to come in April,😀 and my ROC filed on Nov 27, 2017

[I751_HK 33]

2 minutes ago, mister-love said:

I i already requested statements and already print them all from 2017-2019.

I did file for cali and was xfer to Vermont. So don't just send a letter but send all the statements with transactions. Send the new joint tax return and evidences that you live in the same address.  

Thanks for the reply.  I am still waiting for the RFE letter. I just sent out today. I am not sure how long it will take to arrive .

[I751_HK 33]

Just now, I751_HK said:

Thanks for the reply.  I am still waiting for the RFE letter. I just sent out today. I am not sure how long it will take to arrive .

If you feel comfortable,  you can upload the section of the letter where they listed there demand . Thanks in advance 

[dilip 187]

RFE is nothing but delay tactics by USICS, since they do not care about ROC applications.  Better to apply N-400 

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

1 hour ago, dilip said:

RFE is nothing but delay tactics by USICS, since they do not care about ROC applications.  Better to apply N-400 

Not necessarily.. there are genuine instances where adjudicators require additional information to make an informed decision, esp when a i751 package is 'thin'. 

[Daisy&Vincent 12]

4 hours ago, I751_HK said:

Just wanted get more opinion . Do you think should I include daily transaction of account of every month or summary of joint bank statement is sufficient.  

I just recieved rfe . I haven't go the the letter yet . But i am assuming that probably gonna ask for transaction because I sent joint bank statement of several months during my I 751 approval but didn't include daily transaction 

I included joint bank account and credit card statements which should transaction information.  I think where my miss was in terms of showing enough history.  Instead of a few months, maybe as much as possible with daily transaction data.  What I did in additional was have my bank write a letter of verification stating our joint account status, length of holding the account and maintaining balance threshold.  Our leading credit union/bank did this with ease -- seemed like common practice.

[dilip 187]

11 hours ago, WeGuyGal said:

Not necessarily.. there are genuine instances where adjudicators require additional information to make an informed decision, esp when a i751 package is 'thin'. 

I understand sometimes, it is not possible to provide a lot of information about marriage related documents in two years and file is ligh,  but noticed recently they are sending a lot of RFE.  I do not have past statistics for RFE vs Approved without RFE, but it seems like they increase the number of RFE.  

 

 

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

19 minutes ago, dilip said:

I understand sometimes, it is not possible to provide a lot of information about marriage related documents in two years and file is ligh,  but noticed recently they are sending a lot of RFE.  I do not have past statistics for RFE vs Approved without RFE, but it seems like they increase the number of RFE.  

 

I doubt any one in here could claim to know what triggers an RFE vs an interview. Or a straight approval. 

[GBOS 198]

18 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

I doubt any one in here could claim to know what triggers an RFE vs an interview. Or a straight approval. 

RFE is a function of at least two things — evidence (more weight) and officer’s judgement

 

There is a checklist of basic things an officer expect to see on any particular files.  Joint mortgage and/or lease, joint bank accounts, joint liabilities of some form (credit card, auto, personal loan etc), driver’s licenses with the same address, joint insurance benefits (health, dental, vision, life with named beneficiaries).

 

These are key basic things they assume all couples should have, and obviously that don’t apply to every couple.  Children is another thing that was an issue in the past way way back, and that was getting to the point that a lot of people take the issue up with their Representatives and Senators that it is a discrimination issue.  It was during the Bush43 years that there was an internal USCIS memo came out to address that (without accusing adjudicators) not having children should not be a deciding factor to issue an RFE.

 

It is therefore important that every couple should supply not only the evidence but also a letter/affidavit of explanations of their situation if they feel they are out of the norm.  For example, young couples often live with their parents so they don’t have lease and mortgage.  That is totally understandable and can be proved and explained.

 

For many RFEs, I am quite sure that an officer is primarily looking for an explanation as to why some basic things are not there in the evidence.

 

It is wise to appreciate that a file could have been referred for an interview if it lacks severely the basic evidence.  At least an officer is required to issue an RFE prior to doing that to allow you to rectify the case.  People who have been referred to a stand-alone I-751 interview waits for years.  I-751 has even lower priority than I-485 for Field Offices.

Edited March 7, 2019 by GBOS

[dilip 187]

5 minutes ago, GBOS said:

RFE is a function of at least two things — evidence (more weight) and officer’s judgement

 

There is a checklist of basic things an officer expect to see on any particular files.  Joint mortgage and/or lease, joint bank accounts, joint liabilities of some form (credit card, auto, personal loan etc), driver’s licenses with the same address, joint insurance benefits (health, dental, vision, life with named beneficiaries).

 

These are key basic things they assume all couples should have, and obviously that don’t apply to every couple.  Children is another thing that was an issue in the past way way back, and that was getting to the point that a lot of people take the issue up with their Representatives and Senators that it is a discrimination issue.  It was during the Bush43 years that there was an internal USCIS memo came out to address that (without accusing adjudicators) not having children should not be a deciding factor to issue an RFE.

 

It is therefore important that every couple should supply not only the evidence but also a letter/affidavit of explanations of their situation if they feel they are out of the norm.  For example, young couples often live with their parents so they don’t have lease and mortgage.  That is totally understandable and can be proved and explained.

 

For many RFEs, I am quite sure that an officer is primarily looking for an explanation as to why some basic things are not there in the evidence.

 

It is wise to appreciate that a file could have been referred for an interview if it lacks severely the basic evidence.  At least an officer is required to issue an RFE prior to doing that to allow you to rectify the case.  People who have been referred to a stand-alone I-751 interview waits for years.  I-751 has even lower priority than I-485 for Field Offices.

I agree with your explanation.   So 50 % or 75 % is the evidence and 50 or 25 % is the discretion of IO