I-751 October 2017 filers

[GBOS 198]

4 minutes ago, mister-love said:

What i understand is our cases took so long to be reviewed,  so i do believe they want updated evidences like tax, joint bank statements,bills and assets, and that couples are  still living together.  

 

Soon enough I-751 applicants will be asked to sign leases and prepaid taxes 2 years in advance so that I-751 is ready to be adjudicated two years after filing LOL

[David1987 43]

34 minutes ago, Vincent Chu said:

I submitted as much as I had available on behalf of my wife as directed by the VJ guide including shared assets/liabilities like car titles, insurance, joint bank accounts, beneficiary summaries for various retirement or investment accounts, affidavits from friends that know us as a bonafide married couple, recorded trips with photos, itineraries and joint finances like tax returns and other accounts.

 

However, for the most part... I understand the push back mainly in one area.  Although I had showed various pieces of identification and statements showing the same mailing address.  They are challenging the evidence on joint occupancy.  The skinny is... I had already owned my property and associated mortgage for several years before we met.  She had moved in upon PoE date, we had gotten married and we have been living together ever since.  Although we have joint finances did not necessarily want to go through the trouble of making our home a community property which not only involves amending deeds and mortgage.  At least in the state of WA, even when we go through a Re-Fi, quitclaim deed needs be issued to convert owners name (me) from "single man" to "married man" -- but that was not enough.

 

As we are in it for the long haul -- I suppose we can go through this process to make our deeds and mortgages in both names and hopefully pass RFE with flying colors.  Lastly, some of our home utilities, cable, cell account only allow one name even if joint account.  The only solution I see to that is the mix and match primary account holder with our names.

 

 

 

To be honest, CSC was not that helpful.  They just gave me boiler-plate statement of submit additional evidence and proceeded with a list of things.  Much of which I have already submitted.

 

 

 

The last comment "do not send copies of documents previously submitted" while I understand, makes it tough if nothing has changed since we first filed ROC.  At this point, I may seek legal advice to see if the joint ownership piece is even enough.  Have not kept up with how immigration has evolved since... well ya know.  Anyways, good luck to all!

Well that is quite an exhaustive list already and m surprised they asking more on top of dat. Like I don't even have half of that. I got no kids cuz we keep trying and he won't just get pregnant. We don't have a house together and the rent is on his name. He is more than twice my age and I'm the breadwinner in the house. So if there's anything they've seen before I'm not part of that and they sure would ask me for an rfe and maybe they will...

What m tryna say is u don't need to change your house title or deed to put her name...just show evidence of a travel trip or something u did on valentine or dinner date receipts. Something that is genuine and unique to you two other than the formal and forced evidence they are used to. They want something refreshing. Surprise them..I know far more ppl who provided far less evidence and got approved far sooner than us

Edited February 28, 2019 by David1987

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

10 hours ago, Vincent Chu said:

I submitted as much as I had available on behalf of my wife as directed by the VJ guide including shared assets/liabilities like car titles, insurance, joint bank accounts, beneficiary summaries for various retirement or investment accounts, affidavits from friends that know us as a bonafide married couple, recorded trips with photos, itineraries and joint finances like tax returns and other accounts.

 

However, for the most part... I understand the push back mainly in one area.  Although I had showed various pieces of identification and statements showing the same mailing address.  They are challenging the evidence on joint occupancy.  The skinny is... I had already owned my property and associated mortgage for several years before we met.  She had moved in upon PoE date, we had gotten married and we have been living together ever since.  Although we have joint finances did not necessarily want to go through the trouble of making our home a community property which not only involves amending deeds and mortgage.  At least in the state of WA, even when we go through a Re-Fi, quitclaim deed needs be issued to convert owners name (me) from "single man" to "married man" -- but that was not enough.

 

As we are in it for the long haul -- I suppose we can go through this process to make our deeds and mortgages in both names and hopefully pass RFE with flying colors.  Lastly, some of our home utilities, cable, cell account only allow one name even if joint account.  The only solution I see to that is the mix and match primary account holder with our names.

When we submitted our ROC package, on our cover letter we highlighted the fact that the USC has had a mortgage for several years and we did not feel a need to alter the current mortgage.

 

We did submit lots of evidence of joint address, including drivers licences, bank statements, cell phone account, mail, junk mail, utilities in both names, amazon.com purchase deliveries, invitations from friends.. all showing both our names and one joint address. And a ton of (maybe 200) photos of trips, even the both of us shoveling snow together haha  

[dilip 187]

I think, IO officers would like to  make sure that ROC applicant is not homeless, if marriage does not work for any reason beyond ROC approval.   Very progressive thought.  They  are also asked for evidence in another case that step child is well taken care-off by both parents.  They are trying to avoid social liability.

[CSC_SD1017 2]

I see that they have been working on the january 4 transfers today and yesterday. Couple of rfes and card being mailed. 

 

So if they see that you apply for n400, they wont approve it and just send it to NBC? 

 

 

[GBOS 198]

23 minutes ago, CSC_SD1017 said:

I see that they have been working on the january 4 transfers today and yesterday. Couple of rfes and card being mailed. 

 

So if they see that you apply for n400, they wont approve it and just send it to NBC? 

 

 

@CSC_SD1017 - if the files have already been assigned to an officer, files will not be transferred for a combo interview with N400.  Only if the files are still unassigned and can be located, then they will be transferred. Standard procedure.

[dilip 187]

GBOS: But how you will know that the file was assigned to an IO officer?  Is it a possibility, condensing that  concept of work load share, if the file assigned to IO and if he or she sees from the record ( A#) that a person applied N-400, he could be tempted to send to NBC to reduce his work load and get good job reward from his superior  

[GBOS 198]

25 minutes ago, dilip said:

GBOS: But how you will know that the file was assigned to an IO officer?  Is it a possibility, condensing that  concept of work load share, if the file assigned to IO and if he or she sees from the record ( A#) that a person applied N-400, he could be tempted to send to NBC to reduce his work load and get good job reward from his superior  

@dilip - it doesn’t work that way.  Files are constantly moving and being put “up for grab” on shelves near IO cubicles each day.  I discussed previously how the IO come to grab one basket at a time.

 

Once the files are on these work-area shelves or they are picked up by the IO, they will not be transferred.  It is a chain of custody issue.

 

Contractors manage almost all file administrations (in terms of movement).  Each day, Service Centers receive file relocation requests primarily from NBC (but also other offices too).  These contractors go search for the requested files and fulfill the requests.

 

This is why you see some people living in a fast-processing office in terms of N-400 went to their interviews and were told the local offices don’t have their I-751 files.  These represent a small percentage of applicants who somewhat unlucky that their timeline of N-400 happens to coincide with I-751 in a sense that both files are being worked on at the same time.  The vast majority of people who have filed N-400 while I-751 is pending will have their files transferred to NBC before it gets out of storage.

[dilip 187]

GBOS:  I know each case is different and so it is not possible to draw any conclusions, but I filed ROC in Nov 27, 2017 and it is sitting in so called local office since April 9, 2018, most of the cases around me are approved ( ROC).  I applied N-400 in Nov 25, 2018 and my ROC case has no movement, no transfer. It is almost 3 months I filed N-400.  I am wondering why?

Edited February 28, 2019 by dilip

[GBOS 198]

13 minutes ago, dilip said:

GBOS:  I know each case is different and so it is not possible to draw any conclusions, but I filed ROC in Nov 27, 2017 and it is sitting in so called local office since April 9, 2018, most of the cases around me are approved ( ROC).  I applied N-400 in Nov 25, 2018 and my case has no movement, no transfer.   I am wondering why?

@dilip - That is correct.  We cannot draw conclusion, but we can expect the vast majority of the cases are being handled following the standard processing procedures.

You are under the Philadelphia Field Office, which runs at about 10 months (+/- 0.5 months) for N-400.

 

So that is not "unusual" that your ROC had not yet been processed yet at the time you filed for N-400 in November 2018.  At the time you filed for your N-400, VSC was running about 13-15 months, and that explains why they did not get to your case yet because your case was only 12 months old at the time.

 

I cannot comment for certain what your case status tells you but I have said before multiple times that case statuses online are not reliable.  It is updated for many people, and it is not for some people at all.

 

Your file is very likely at the PHL Field Office already, and based on your timeline, your N-400 would be adjudicated around September 2019, which means that you would be getting the interview appointment letter this Summer, roughly around July 2019 or after.  Field Offices are required to notify the applicants as soon as the interview slots become available but no later than 2 weeks prior to the interview date (with some exceptions, of course).  Many Field Offices notify the applicants well in advanced, like 2 months.  That is the discretion of each office's operations.

 

If and when you get the letter this Summer, please do let me know if I read your timeline correctly.  Even better, some Field Offices also report processing time that is faster than what is posted on USCIS website.

Edited February 28, 2019 by GBOS

[dilip 187]

GBOS:  Since field office does not approve ROC stand along, so I have no change to get ROC approve before N-400 assuming my ROC file in @ Philadelphia local office.   Case status is very standard wording.  I agree with your N-400 timeline calculation based on past cases I followed of N-400 Philly office.  I have my passport stamped until Feb 2020, so may be I will be fine.  I hope, I-551 stamp will be fine to travel.  

[GBOS 198]

1 minute ago, dilip said:

GBOS:  Since field office does not approve ROC stand along, so I have no change to get ROC approve before N-400 assuming my ROC file in @ Philadelphia local office.   Case status is very standard wording.  I agree with your N-400 timeline calculation based on past cases I followed of N-400 Philly office.  I have my passport stamped until Feb 2020, so may be I will be fine.  I hope, I-551 stamp will be fine to travel.  

You will be fine.  I have just the stamp now as well and I have left the country exactly 14 times since.

Edited March 1, 2019 by GBOS

[Mredkey 0]

how long after getting the "card has been mailed to me" did you guys get the tracking number? 

[Daisy&Vincent 12]

12 hours ago, WeGuyGal said:

When we submitted our ROC package, on our cover letter we highlighted the fact that the USC has had a mortgage for several years and we did not feel a need to alter the current mortgage.

 

We did submit lots of evidence of joint address, including drivers licences, bank statements, cell phone account, mail, junk mail, utilities in both names, amazon.com purchase deliveries, invitations from friends.. all showing both our names and one joint address. And a ton of (maybe 200) photos of trips, even the both of us shoveling snow together haha  

Thanks for sharing what you have provided in your case.

 

Can you refresh me on the status of your case?  Is your I-751 approved, RFE, untouched?  Did you file for N-400?

[I751_HK 33]

It's hard to believe that wac18023 series have 700 plus cases.  No wonder officers are inundated with applications and trigger doubts.