N-400 October 2017 Filers

[Commando 13]

1 hour ago, AAli313 said:

Went to my app today. I literally had everything single possible document they could ask for with me. 

 

I passed the English and civics test and all the n400 app questions were quick and easy, until I got to the selective service part, they said they couldn’t make a decision on my application yet until I provide him with a “advisory opinion” letter which they told me to get from selective service, so I call up selective service immediately after my app and turns out no letter exists,  so I’m back and forth with uscis and selective service, even the uscis level 2 officers told me they’ve never heard of an “advisory opinion” letter before.  The officer who interview me wasn’t really welcoming, I didn’t mind but he asked me some weird questions like “did your marry your wife for a green card?” And “Are you on welfare?”, I answered both easily but his tone was really demeaning in a way. So he basically asked me for a paper that doesn’t exist, idk what to do😕 I’ve made an info pass to speak to someone about this march 15 and hopefully I’ll have an update with some good news then. 

What office or city did you have your interview?

[AAli313 11]

Detroit 

[AAli313 11]

4 minutes ago, Hypnos said:

There is no other kind of letter you can obtain from SSS.

That’s what selective service told me already three times today, they were really helpful they even offered to speak to uscis with a three way call and explain to them no letter exists and what are they really asking for. 

 

Because they literally told me go get this “ advisory opinion” letter from this number and it’s the selective service number. I’ve also spoken to two uscis officers over the phone and said they’ve never heard of this letter or where I can obtain it! I’m really bummed out now I gotta wait two weeks for my info pass to go over and tell them what do they really need from me. 

[CarlHamilton 252]

10 minutes ago, AAli313 said:

That’s what selective service told me already three times today, they were really helpful they even offered to speak to uscis with a three way call and explain to them no letter exists and what are they really asking for. 

 

Because they literally told me go get this “ advisory opinion” letter from this number and it’s the selective service number. I’ve also spoken to two uscis officers over the phone and said they’ve never heard of this letter or where I can obtain it! I’m really bummed out now I gotta wait two weeks for my info pass to go over and tell them what do they really need from me. 

Can you provide more background info for the benefit of other users who may face the same issue?  Were you in the US as an immigrant (green card, etc.) between the ages of 18 and 26?  Are you now 31 or older?  Did you register with Selective Service?  If not, what did your Selective Service letter say?  Did it mention an "advisory opinion?"  Are these the exact words the officer used?

Edited March 1, 2018 by shomer

[AAli313 11]

4 minutes ago, shomer said:

Can you provide more background info for the benefit of other users who may face the same issue?  Were you in the US as an immigrant (green card, etc.) between the ages of 18 and 26?  Are you now 31 or older?  Did you register with Selective Service?  If not, what did your Selective Service letter say?  Did it mention an "advisory opinion?"  Are these the exact words the officer used?

Yes, and I failed to register, and I’ve provided a status of information letter and a signed statement explaining why I didn’t purposely do it.  I’m 28 and I’ve been in the USA for 4 years married to a  born us citizen with two kids born in the us. I pay taxes, and try to do everything that shows good character. No trips outside us, not even a ticket 😕

 

And i I literally have a paper with the words “ You must obtain an Advisory Opinion letter regarding your failure to register from 888-655-1825, this office will continue the processing of your application upon the receipt of the Advisory Opinion letter.” 

[AAli313 11]

15 minutes ago, shomer said:

Can you provide more background info for the benefit of other users who may face the same issue?  Were you in the US as an immigrant (green card, etc.) between the ages of 18 and 26?  Are you now 31 or older?  Did you register with Selective Service?  If not, what did your Selective Service letter say?  Did it mention an "advisory opinion?"  Are these the exact words the officer used?

My status of information letter stated I was 26 that exact year and I don’t qualify to register anymore and there wasn’t any notices sent to me register from them, and I shouldn’t be denied any federal right because this etc. nothing that says advisory opinion. 

 

And yep those are his words and what’s on the paper asking from me further process my application. 

[Commando 13]

31 minutes ago, AAli313 said:

Detroit 

Where you originally from? Like which country you are from?

[AAli313 11]

1 minute ago, Commando said:

Where you originally from? Like which country you are from?

Yemen

You think that mattered today? 

 

 

[CarlHamilton 252]

17 minutes ago, AAli313 said:

My status of information letter stated I was 26 that exact year and I don’t qualify to register anymore and there wasn’t any notices sent to me register from them, and I shouldn’t be denied any federal right because this etc. nothing that says advisory opinion. 

 

And yep those are his words and what’s on the paper asking from me further process my application. 

I googled "selective service" and "advisory opinion" and found this (look at pages 366-7): https://www.sss.gov/portals/0/PDFs/32_CFR.pdf

I have no personal experience with this and this is obviously not legal advice.

Edited March 1, 2018 by shomer

[ezsosa 5]

1698.2    Requests    for     advisory    opin- ions. (a) Any  male  born  after  December  31, 1959   who has  attained    18   years  of   age may  request  an  advisory  opinion  as  to his  liability  to  register  under  MSSA. A parent  or  guardian  of   such  person  who is unable  to  make  a  request  for  an  ad- visory opinion  may  request  an  advisory opinion for  him.  Any  Federal, state    or municipal governmental agency  may request an  advisory  opinion  as  to  the liability  of   any male  person born  after December  31,   1959   who  has  attained    18 years  of   age  to  register  under  MSSA. (b)    Requests    for   advisory   opinions shall  be   in  writing  and  addressed  to  Di- rector  of   Selective Service,  ATTN:  SIL, P.O. Box  94638,   Palatine,  IL  60094–4638. With respect  to  the  person  concerning whom an  advisory  opinion  is  requested, the following  should  be   furnished: full name, address,  date  of   birth,  Social  Se- curity   Account  Number,  basis  for  the opinion  that    the  registration  require- ment is  inapplicable  to  him,  and,  if  ap- plicable,  basis  for  his assertion  that  his failure   to    register   ‘‘.   .  .   was   not   a knowing   and   willful   failure   to   reg- ister.’’ [52   FR  24460,   July  1,   1987,   as  amended at  65 FR 47670,  Aug.  3,  2000] 

[Nikkosan 127]

I also found the following (1st page on Google, typing "selective service advisory opinion letter"):

 

In the past, when states completed the "advisory form" for such applicants, the Selective Service System (SSS) responded with an "advisory opinion letter" which, in effect, ruled on an applicant's compliance with the federal requirement to register with the SSS. Since January 1995, the SSS has been issuing “status information letters", indicating an applicant's Selective Service status, in lieu of the previous system of "advisory opinion letters.

[AAli313 11]

39 minutes ago, shomer said:

I googled "selective service" and "advisory opinion" and found this (look at pages 366-7): https://www.sss.gov/portals/0/PDFs/32_CFR.pdf

Thanks for the help 

just call selective service again asking about this pdf and they told me again an “advisory opinion” letter is a status of information letter period 😕

[Hypnos 6,576]

Might be time to start hitting up one of your congressional representatives. Explain the situation to them and have them intercede on your behalf.

[CarlHamilton 252]

4 minutes ago, AAli313 said:

Thanks for the help 

just call selective service again asking about this pdf and they told me again an “advisory opinion” letter is a status of information letter period 😕

Hmm. Maybe your interviewer is old school (pre-1995?).  Keep us posted re: InfoPass.

[AAli313 11]

1 hour ago, Nikkosan said:

I also found the following (1st page on Google, typing "selective service advisory opinion letter"):

 

In the past, when states completed the "advisory form" for such applicants, the Selective Service System (SSS) responded with an "advisory opinion letter" which, in effect, ruled on an applicant's compliance with the federal requirement to register with the SSS. Since January 1995, the SSS has been issuing “status information letters", indicating an applicant's Selective Service status, in lieu of the previous system of "advisory opinion letters.

 Can you link me to that page? Pls I would appreciate it maybe I can print that page out and take it with me