AUTOMATIC RIFLES ARE BANNED. HERE'S HOW THE LAS VEGAS SHOOTER COULD HAVE GOTTEN ONE

[yuna628 9,676]

13 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

I agree he could have bankrolled this whole thing and he might have. But it does not make sense at all because he sounds like a meticulous planner, so why do all of this and not have a letter or manifesto?  Why did he go through all of this planning if there is no reason? I don't get the whole "he snapped from mental illness" thing either because it does not make sense at all. He is a multi millionaire that owns alot of apartments here in SoCal. So how has he amassed all of this wealth being mentally unstable???????

There are some aspects here that fit the profile of a well... a sort of high functioning sociopath. And history is filled with those sorts of people who manage to do things that the average crazy criminal may not ever do. Remember there's a lot we don't know about this case simply because they are keeping a very tight lid on it. That may be for a whole host of reasons. They may be saying he's acted alone in order to trip someone up, they may be acting as if they don't know much when in fact they likely do. It's an investigative process. There have been plenty of rich mentally unstable people.

10 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Oh gawd,  you really have joined the tinfoil cap club on this one. Is it hard to believe that someone could do this and not be an extremist? 

It's also easy to pull out the tinfoil hat and jump into the conspiracy pool. I think we can all agree there are some aspects of this case that do not make much sense. But we are only outside viewers, and do not have access to the real evidence before us. If I take everything we know or has been reported at simple face value it does not make sense, and requires me to suspend a lot of things that come to me logically. It's a puzzle with some critical pieces missing. Is it possible he is a terrorist? Well I'd absolutely call him that. Is it possible he's also a sociopath, yes. But I find it hard to believe he managed to pull off such a tactical operation without having some sort of outside assistance or training. I do not believe the average 'gun nut' could do this. He may be a unique outlier, but we'll have to wait and see.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

2 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

There are some aspects here that fit the profile of a well... a sort of high functioning sociopath. And history is filled with those sorts of people who manage to do things that the average crazy criminal may not ever do. Remember there's a lot we don't know about this case simply because they are keeping a very tight lid on it. That may be for a whole host of reasons. They may be saying he's acted alone in order to trip someone up, they may be acting as if they don't know much when in fact they likely do. It's an investigative process. There have been plenty of rich mentally unstable people.

It's also easy to pull out the tinfoil hat and jump into the conspiracy pool. I think we can all agree there are some aspects of this case that do not make much sense. But we are only outside viewers, and do not have access to the real evidence before us. If I take everything we know or has been reported at simple face value it does not make sense, and requires me to suspend a lot of things that come to me logically. It's a puzzle with some critical pieces missing. Is it possible he is a terrorist? Well I'd absolutely call him that. Is it possible he's also a sociopath, yes. But I find it hard to believe he managed to pull off such a tactical operation without having some sort of outside assistance or training. I do not believe the average 'gun nut' could do this. He may be a unique outlier, but we'll have to wait and see.

I can agree with all of this. Good Job

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

10 hours ago, Mr Know It All said:

 

 

 

 

It sounded just like the BT-604 Rivet Gun with a high capacity clip to me.

 

I have a lot of experience with rivet guns, believe me!!

 

I checked your profile and your still, here. You must have splurged for the platinum plan this go around. 

[Póg mo 1,749]

So a whole lot of Americans murder a bunch of other Americans week after week with guns. So what? It's not like anyone's constitutional rights were trampled on, or anything? Am I wrong? Why should someone be separated from their beloved guns, just because they might be mentally ill or something, or even likely to go out and kill a bunch of people. Priorities people

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

6 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

So a whole lot of Americans murder a bunch of other Americans week after week with guns. So what? It's not like anyone's constitutional rights were trampled on, or anything? Am I wrong? Why should someone be separated from their beloved guns, just because they might be mentally ill or something, or even likely to go out and kill a bunch of people. Priorities people

So what is the Answer, ban all guns 

[Merle 458]

9 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

So a whole lot of Americans murder a bunch of other Americans week after week with guns. So what? It's not like anyone's constitutional rights were trampled on, or anything? Am I wrong? Why should someone be separated from their beloved guns, just because they might be mentally ill or something, or even likely to go out and kill a bunch of people. Priorities people

I'm having a hard time understanding what your point is. I doubt if you'll find any member here that would think mentally ill people should own any kind of gun. If you can find an example of such please post a link.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

12 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Spoken like a true fan of Venezuela.

No spoken like someone with common sense. Yourself with a gun vs Military, if you think you've got a chance good luck to you!

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 hour ago, Póg mo said:

So a whole lot of Americans murder a bunch of other Americans week after week with guns. So what? It's not like anyone's constitutional rights were trampled on, or anything? Am I wrong? Why should someone be separated from their beloved guns, just because they might be mentally ill or something, or even likely to go out and kill a bunch of people. Priorities people

 

It seems it's even worse than that. We're hearing proposals that nothing can or should be done to stop these type of attacks to take place again. 

13 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Spoken like a true fan of Venezuela.

 

 

Daily Double Covfefe!

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

7 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

so Universal checks, even at gun shows?  Y / N

We keep bringing that to his attention, doesn't change a thing. 

I gave no problems with universal checks , including private sales, using the current system. I think it is doable. 

 

The problem that every time guns come up idiots like Hillary start babbling about assault looking weapons, magazines and silencers and the battle lines get drawn. Do you know what a small percentage of gun deaths are Ar style weapons..

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

It seems it's even worse than that. We're hearing proposals that nothing can or should be done to stop these type of attacks to take place again. 

 

 

Daily Double Covfefe!

So how do you propse we stop all the gun deaths every year,  the vast vast vast majority of which are committed with illegally obtained hand guns 

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I gave no problems with universal checks , including private sales, using the current system. I think it is doable. 

 

The problem that every time guns come up idiots like Hillary start babbling about assault looking weapons, magazines and silencers and the battle lines get drawn. Do you know what a small percentage of gun deaths are Ar style weapons..

 

Tell that to the families of the people mowed down in LV. SMH

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So how do you propse we stop all the gun deaths every year,  the vast vast vast majority of which are committed with illegally obtained hand guns 

 

I propose with start with discourse, and with responsible politicians who realize that this sort of terrorism was never intended to be covered by the Constitution. That might be a good start.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

4 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

I propose with start with discourse, and with responsible politicians who realize that this sort of terrorism was never intended to be covered by the Constitution. That might be a good start.

Well as long as the alt left is screaming about so called assault rifles instead of common sense solutions that will never happen. 

 

The vast vast majority of gun deaths in this country are committed with illegal handguns

 

So what ya got ?

 

Close the gun hole nonsense that accounts for a tiny fraction of the problem.. Then what.. All ears.

 

 

 

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So what is the Answer, ban all guns 

 

   The solution to any problem is rarely going to be the diametric opposite.

 

   If you're too hot, the answer isn't to put out the sun. The logical thing would be to look at ways to cool things off a bit.

[Merle 458]

32 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

so Universal checks, even at gun shows?  Y / N

 

Sure, why not. I just moved to AZ from WA where they have made it mandatory that every gun purchase must go through a dealer background check. It has not shown to have had any impact on crime whatsoever. What it did do was make it a hindrance for law abiding people to buy a gun. Criminals still get their guns any way they can (stealing them, buying them from other criminals, etc.)  But what does universal background checks have to do with the Las Vegas shooter? According to the things I've read and heard on the news this guy bought all his guns legally from dealers who would have had by law to do background checks. You might as well ask if I prefer vanilla or chocolate ice cream because it's about as relevant to this particular situation as background checks.  

Edited October 5, 2017 by Merle
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