AUTOMATIC RIFLES ARE BANNED. HERE'S HOW THE LAS VEGAS SHOOTER COULD HAVE GOTTEN ONE

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

You know what will really spoil it? Let's mark each weapon with "Made in Venezuela"!

[Merle 458]

25 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

So here is the plan, 

every leftist will get a firearm, AR-15 is good but any carbine will work. 

If we can get it at a gun show even better. 

Then we modify the trigger Assemblies, this will ruin the public opinion of the Second Amendment in heartbeat and we will repeal it.   EzeePezee.

Got a spare $250,000 lying around and or 10 years free time to spare?

[Dashinka 24,505]

1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

So here is the plan, 

every leftist will get a firearm, AR-15 is good but any carbine will work. 

If we can get it at a gun show even better. 

Then we modify the trigger Assemblies, this will ruin the public opinion of the Second Amendment in heartbeat and we will repeal it.   EzeePezee.

Didn’t we already see a crazed MDL person do this?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

7 hours ago, LionessDeon said:

Pretty sure when the 2nd Amendment was adopted in 1791 they did not envision today's society issues or these types of weapons.  

That's why the made a way to change. It's really that simple 

[JimandChristy 1,689]

2nd amendment needs to change, seriously do the general citizenry honestly believe they could out fight the might of their own government when they have missiles, nuclear bombs, fighter aircraft etc etc?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

7 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

2nd amendment needs to change, seriously do the general citizenry honestly believe they could out fight the might of their own government when they have missiles, nuclear bombs, fighter aircraft etc etc?

[JimandChristy 1,689]

2 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

That'll show 'em!

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

26 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

2nd amendment needs to change, seriously do the general citizenry honestly believe they could out fight the might of their own government when they have missiles, nuclear bombs, fighter aircraft etc etc?

Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it 

[Sonea 138]

1 hour ago, JimandChristy said:

2nd amendment needs to change, seriously do the general citizenry honestly believe they could out fight the might of their own government when they have missiles, nuclear bombs, fighter aircraft etc etc?

We don't know what the future will hold. Who is to say that technology doesn't degrade, or the government and military doesn't fracture.

 

If you compare the late 20th and early 21st century to history, you will realize we live in a very peaceful time. To say that the 2nd amendment is not necessary today is a bit like saying you don't need shelter when you are in the eye of a storm.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it 

You vs military, good luck!

[JimandChristy 1,689]

16 minutes ago, Sonea said:

We don't know what the future will hold. Who is to say that technology doesn't degrade, or the government and military doesn't fracture.

 

If you compare the late 20th and early 21st century to history, you will realize we live in a very peaceful time. To say that the 2nd amendment is not necessary today is a bit like saying you don't need shelter when you are in the eye of a storm.

Funny, even after the second world war when it was mainly the European and Japanese citizenry who suffered the most still didn't feel the need or want to own a gun for protection against their own government just in case like.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

3 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

So here is the plan, 

every leftist will get a firearm, AR-15 is good but any carbine will work. 

If we can get it at a gun show even better. 

Then we modify the trigger Assemblies, this will ruin the public opinion of the Second Amendment in heartbeat and we will repeal it.   EzeePezee.

and that is illegal...............

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Everyone is focusing on the wrong things here I think.  Forget about gun laws for the moment, or your political leanings.

 

Does it not strike anyone else that there were at least two different weapons firing from two different locations at the same time?  And the caliber doesn’t seem to me to be 5.56.  Much louder, like 7.62/.308.  We are not being told the whole story here.  Something is fishy.

[Sonea 138]

3 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Funny, even after the second world war when it was mainly the European and Japanese citizenry who suffered the most still didn't feel the need or want to own a gun for protection against their own government just in case like.

I'm not sure I agree with your statement in regards to Europe given the diversity of people. Regarding Japan, it was the norm for centuries starting with the rules of the Tokugawa shogunate. Whilst I don't believe in American exceptionalism, I can not fathom Americans of any century tolerating the law of the shogunate. 

6 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Everyone is focusing on the wrong things here I think.  Forget about gun laws for the moment, or your political leanings.

 

Does it not strike anyone else that there were at least two different weapons firing from two different locations at the same time?  And the caliber doesn’t seem to me to be 5.56.  Much louder, like 7.62/.308.  We are not being told the whole story here.  Something is fishy.

I haven't listened that closely. Are you sure you aren't hearing echos off the facade of the building?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

10 minutes ago, Sonea said:

 

I haven't listened that closely. Are you sure you aren't hearing echos off the facade of the building?

I have a lot of experience with weapons such as these.  Not only do I think there are more than one, I don’t think they are 5.56 caliber.

 

 

The first shots seem to be followed by echoes.

The second burst at 0:46 sounds like the “echoes” in the first burst.  Or gunfire from a farther distance, definitely 7.62/.308 caliber.

Then at 1:09, shots fired much closer followed by echoes off a building.  Sounds more like 5.56/.223 caliber.  May just be sharper because they are closer to and more in the direction of the cab driver.  Not sure.  But definitely two different rifles and firing positions.