At least 50 dead, 400 injured in shooting near Mandalay Bay casino, 1 suspect 'down'

[Sonea 138]

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:12 PM, CaliCat said:

 

That would have been 14 years after the University of Texas massacre. Yep, he would have been flagged. 

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Wait how? he had 40ish? Thats not that many for a collector.

[CaliCat 3,957]

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:14 PM, Merle said:

You are saying someone would have been flagged based upon XX number of guns being purchased a year using a registration system that only exists in your mind. I'm sold! Registration for all!

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YOU are saying that. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:15 PM, Sonea said:

Wait how? he had 40ish? Thats not that many for a collector.

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Pure mathematics: subtract 1966 from 1980. The result is 14. 

[Merle 458]

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:12 PM, CaliCat said:

 

That would have been 14 years after the University of Texas massacre. Yep, he would have been flagged. 

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  On 10/6/2017 at 6:15 PM, CaliCat said:

 

YOU are saying that. 

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Huh? So tell me then on what basis he would have been flagged? The non-existent registration system that will set off the authorities once XX number of firearms have been purchased?

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[CaliCat 3,957]

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:18 PM, Merle said:

 

Huh? So tell me then on what basis he would have been flagged? The non-existent registration system that will set off the authorities once XX number of firearms have been purchased?

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If we had taken action when the fist mass shooting took place in 1966, the register that the other poster claimed would not provide useful information would have flagged the LV terrorist at some point after he started amassing his cache or weapons in the 1980s. Therefore, if you subtract 1966 (year when the University of Texas shooting took place) from 1980 (which is the earliest of the 1980s) you end up with 14 years, give or take, because the 1980's extended until 1989. The idea is that we could have done something, and we didn't.

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[Sonea 138]

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:24 PM, CaliCat said:

 

If we had taken action when the fist mass shooting took place in 1966, the register that the other poster claimed would not provide useful information would have flagged the LV terrorist when he started amassing his cache or weapons in the 1980s. Therefore, if you subtract 1966 (year when the University of Texas shooting took place) from 1980 (which is the earliest of the 1980s) you end up with 14 years, give or take, because the 1980's extended until 1989. The idea is that we could have done something, and we didn't.

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But he hasn't purchased that many firearms. He wouldn't be flagged.

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:16 PM, CaliCat said:

 

Pure mathematics: subtract 1966 from 1980. The result is 14. 

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Your talking number of years, I'm talking number of firearms.

[CaliCat 3,957]

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:27 PM, Sonea said:

But he hasn't purchased that many firearms. He wouldn't be flagged.

 

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The police report says he purchased some 33 (?) guns in the last year.

[Sonea 138]

  On 10/6/2017 at 6:33 PM, CaliCat said:

 

The police report says he purchased some 33 (?) guns in the last year.

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Ah I see that now. Thanks.

[-Trinity- 513]

  On 10/6/2017 at 3:49 PM, smilesammich said:

 

do you think the rights of the 58 dead in las vegas were properly protected?

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I understand where you coming from...but a person who is willing to take dozens of people's lives will do that, one way or another. 

The shooting reminds me of the German co-pilot a couple years ago: 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1699468/suicidal-germanwings-pilot-who-killed-144-people-was-promoted-after-failing-key-flight-test/

 

I wonder if the people who are extremely opposed to weapons would think the same when the lives of their loved ones are in danger.

 

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[CaliCat 3,957]

  On 10/6/2017 at 7:24 PM, Beachlover said:

I understand where you coming from...but a person who is willing to take dozens of people's lives will do that, one way or another. 

The shooting reminds me of the German co-pilot a couple years ago: 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1699468/suicidal-germanwings-pilot-who-killed-144-people-was-promoted-after-failing-key-flight-test/

 

I wonder if the people who are extremely opposed to weapons would think the same when the lives of their loved ones are in danger.

 

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That's a good analogy. Even though no one could have predicted or perhaps prevented the crash, no one suggested that the existing screening pilots undergo should be eliminated, as a result of that tragedy. 

 

 

[-Trinity- 513]

  On 10/6/2017 at 7:31 PM, CaliCat said:

 

 

That's a good analogy. Even though no one could have predicted or perhaps prevented the crash, no one suggested that the existing screening pilots undergo should be eliminated, as a result of that tragedy. 

 

 

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Difference is that the co pilot was declared unfit for flying by a psychiatrist due to suicide thoughts, but he hid this info from Germanwings.

I'm really curious if at some point we will learn that the LV shooter had some severe psychological issues. Right now it seems family and friends describe him  ( shooter) as a successful business man how liked to gamble and an weapon collector. But that can be some sort of self denial? 

[CaliCat 3,957]

  On 10/6/2017 at 7:40 PM, Beachlover said:

Difference is that the co pilot was declared unfit for flying by a psychiatrist due to suicide thoughts, but he hid this info from Germanwings.

I'm really curious if at some point we will learn that the LV shooter had some severe psychological issues. Right now it seems family and friends describe him  ( shooter) as a successful business man how liked to gamble and an weapon collector. But that can be some sort of self denial? 

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Don't all terrorists fit that category? Maybe he was just a sociopath who managed to hide his ailment far too well. 

[-Trinity- 513]

  On 10/6/2017 at 7:43 PM, CaliCat said:

 

Don't all terrorists fit that category? Maybe he was just a sociopath who managed to hide his ailment far too well. 

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Well, to be able to take so many lives ( let it be 1 life  ) and injuring so hundreds without a blink of an eye means without a doubt that he is mentally ill. Just wonder how he got away with it for so long.

Don't believe in the "he snapped" theory I read somewhere else.

 

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

  On 10/6/2017 at 7:54 PM, Beachlover said:

Well, to be able to take so many lives ( let it be 1 life  ) and injuring so hundreds without a blink of an eye means without a doubt that he is mentally ill. Just wonder how he got away with it for so long.

Don't believe in the "he snapped" theory I read somewhere else.

 

 

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I agree with you. I don't think he snapped. He planned this for a long time, and I am sure someone at some point must have seen something that didn't seem right at the time. They let the girlfriend back in the country, and she might be the one who's holding the key to that mystery.

[smilesammich 10,727]

  On 10/6/2017 at 7:24 PM, Beachlover said:

I understand where you coming from...but a person who is willing to take dozens of people's lives will do that, one way or another. 

The shooting reminds me of the German co-pilot a couple years ago: 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1699468/suicidal-germanwings-pilot-who-killed-144-people-was-promoted-after-failing-key-flight-test/

 

I wonder if the people who are extremely opposed to weapons would think the same when the lives of their loved ones are in danger.

 

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so, simply the desire to commit mass murder ensures success?

 

every body has regrets/hindsight is 20/20 and all that. i'm sure there are people who wish they'd had a gun and didn't. but i bet there are more that wish a gun hadn't been present when one was.