At least 50 dead, 400 injured in shooting near Mandalay Bay casino, 1 suspect 'down'

[Boiler 46,121]

You can bump fire using a rubber band, ban rubber bands?

[Sonea 138]

3 hours ago, CaliCat said:

 

Guns were available but they didn't carry the same lethal punch as they do today. It is true that societal rules have changed, and I also believe they may be a part of it, and maybe the combination of these rules with the availability of these weapons just make it all the more appealing to commit these crimes. In addition, the glamorization of violence has been desensitizing us to these events ever so slowly. I don't believe that those many decades ago we'd be having so many people speaking in favor or having civilians carrying semi-automatic weapons. The gun culture followed the crazies down that yellow brick road. 

 

 

False.  Firearm development basically ended in terms of higher lethality by the 1950s /1960s. Since then its been about materials, barrel life etc.

2 hours ago, CaliCat said:

 

By sheer virtue of their becoming more easily procured. 

False. You used to be able to order a rifles from the sears catalog and other mail in options. 

[Merle 458]

Just now, smilesammich said:

there were less people 30 years ago. and there were less guns in circulation. bet that has something to do with it.

There was also stronger family values, no gangster rap, no violent mind numbing video games, more mental institutions, more respect for authority and a whole bunch of other things as well.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Merle said:

There was also stronger family values, no gangster rap, no violent mind numbing video games, more mental institutions, more respect for authority and a whole bunch of other things as well.

all of that is seriously up for debate (nwa was founded in 86, atari in 72 )

[Merle 458]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You can bump fire using a rubber band, ban rubber bands?

 

[Sonea 138]

30 years ago crime and murder was actually higher FYI.

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, smilesammich said:

all of that is seriously up for debate (nwa was founded in 86, atari in 72 )

 

I think I can see where the discussion is headed.

[Merle 458]

1 minute ago, Sonea said:

30 years ago crime and murder was actually higher FYI.

How about mass murders being committed with AR style weapons?

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, CaliCat said:

 

I think I can see where the discussion is headed.

something tells me the shooter in lv didn't listen to gangster rap or play video games.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

3 minutes ago, Sonea said:

30 years ago crime and murder was actually higher FYI.

You are happy with the crime rate?

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

something tells me the shooter in lv didn't listen to gangster rap or play video games.

 

I am sure he didn't, and as red herrings go, these are kind of weak, dontcha think?

 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

something tells me the shooter in lv didn't listen to gangster rap or play video games.

I bet he had a hoodie though!

[Sonea 138]

2 minutes ago, Merle said:

How about mass murders being committed with AR style weapons?

The first one i'm aware is James Holmes though it jammed early on (2012)

 

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, Il Mango Dulce said:

I bet he had a hoodie though!

 

 

You're getting close. 

[Merle 458]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

something tells me the shooter in lv didn't listen to gangster rap or play video games.

Maybe if the hotel where he was staying didn't have their heads in their rear ends they might have noticed what was about to happen. I heard he had a "do not disturb" sign on his door for 3 days. Maybe a policy change is in order?