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Hi all, my fiance has an interview coming up and she told me that she saw in one of the videos on Youtube that you have to get a new Cenomar to bring to interview.

She got her Cenomar back in February when I filed the petition and I submitted a copy of it with my petition, does she need to get a new one again?

 

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The CENOMAR needs to be within 6 months of the interview. It was not required with the I-129F so USCIS would have never looked at it. It sounds like she will need a new one.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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The CENOMAR itself doesn't have an expiration, and the embassy instructions don't state one either, but the CO may request updated documentation if the ones provided are old. Over 6 months is fairly old. So a new one is not strictly required, but getting a new one is suggested to avoid a potential 221g at the interview.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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2 hours ago, geowrian said:

The CENOMAR itself doesn't have an expiration, and the embassy instructions don't state one either, but the CO may request updated documentation if the ones provided are old. Over 6 months is fairly old. So a new one is not strictly required, but getting a new one is suggested to avoid a potential 221g at the interview.

CENOMAR states a one year validity on it.

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10 hours ago, Rogi said:

Hi all, my fiance has an interview coming up and she told me that she saw in one of the videos on Youtube that you have to get a new Cenomar to bring to interview.

She got her Cenomar back in February when I filed the petition and I submitted a copy of it with my petition, does she need to get a new one again?

 

Yes it is best she get a new one, as stated already, the embassy most times will request a new one if it is older than 6 months.   Same for the NBI.. not older than 6 months.

 

http://www.visaconnection-philippines.com/index.html

 

http://www.visaconnection-philippines.com/k-1-visa-application.html

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22 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

CENOMAR states a one year validity on it.

I thought so as well, but I checked the one my now-wife got earlier this year and it doesn't say this anywhere. I'm not saying it doesn't necessarily, but it's not stated on the CENOMAR itself.

 

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Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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I am not sure I saw it on the CENOMAR itself may have read it on the NSO/PSA website.  

 

Now when I search I find this, but it is from a Philippine consulate, not directly from PSA (I am still searching):

 

"Please note that the CENOMAR is valid for only six (6) months from the date of issuance by the NSO."

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Yep! @Rogi, their own email says 12 mos, but as Hank shows above, the website shows 6 mos.  Since there are 2 versions of the same criteria, you have to go with the most restrictive one to avoid the dreaded 221G :D 

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3 hours ago, Rogi said:

I couldn't see where the website shows 6 months but she is trying to get a new one now just in case.

You won't find mention of 6 months for the CENOMAR on the USEM website, this is something some "learned the hard way" and reported back to us.  Over time we heard of people still getting "wacked" on this so we know the embassy is still looking for 6 months or newer.  

 

It is like poverty guidelines for the K-1, if you read on the DOS website it states 100%, but USEM follows the 125% guideline the same as used with the I-864.  You can read on the DOS website that assets can be used to make up a shortage income ... but USEM does not accept assets, learned this from a number of people, some are friends of mine.     

 

This is the "sweet stuff" that can save both time and money ...   ;)    

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:secret:Like Hank says this is what we have seen over the years that the CO's have their rule and that rule is 6 months.  We pass it on so you don't get hit with a "gotcha". Also,

 

Hank has a good website for other requirements and tidbits of great information. You'll get the address in his signature box with the old tyme finger pointing. :thumbs:

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On 9/25/2017 at 8:24 AM, Rogi said:

I just saw the interview email sent from embassy and it says that the cenomar must be issued within 12 months of the interview. Go figure!

Yes, it is right there in the embassy instructions letter - the CENOMAR is valid for 12 months.  It has stated that for many years... yet at the interview  *bang* you hit that 6 month wall.

Hank

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