Genie or secret spy cams?

[h&at 1]

My fiance used to smoke weed recreation ally 5 years ago. Ever since then he quit and has remained clean. In the medical exam, he was advised  to admit he used to smoke weed when asked even though that will get him a 1 year ban. I told him why don;t you just say no? You're super clean anyway. But people kept telling us don't ever ever lie  even if they'll never know. Even if you'll get a 1 year ban. 

 

So my question is, how does the embassy spy on us to know if we are lying about that or not about smoking weed 5 years ago at a dingy house party. Do they have a genie, or install secret spy cams while we are asleep? 

 

I have a feeling it's the secret spaghetti monster. But I don't know. Please guys help us please let us know help help help. :-/ 

[Crazy Cat 41,919]

Dishonesty is a really bad idea....especially regarding immigration......TIFWIW

Edited September 21, 2017 by missileman

[geowrian 22,337]

It's always the FSM.

 

How they can find out doesn't matter since you need to be honest on the forms and when questioned. It's against the TOS for anybody to advise you to answer otherwise. Suggesting he say no when the truth is yes is a very dangerous suggestion.

[EandH0904 1,184]

19 minutes ago, h&at said:

My fiance used to smoke weed recreation ally 5 years ago. Ever since then he quit and has remained clean. In the medical exam, he was advised  to admit he used to smoke weed when asked even though that will get him a 1 year ban. I told him why don;t you just say no? You're super clean anyway. But people kept telling us don't ever ever lie  even if they'll never know. Even if you'll get a 1 year ban. 

 

So my question is, how does the embassy spy on us to know if we are lying about that or not about smoking weed 5 years ago at a dingy house party. Do they have a genie, or install secret spy cams while we are asleep? 

 

I have a feeling it's the secret spaghetti monster. But I don't know. Please guys help us please let us know help help help. :-/ 

There are lots of moral choices we face in life that we could potentially lie about, or get away with because "no one would ever know" - obviously it would be easy for us to keep $500 on the ground or lie to the police officer about why we were speeding or that we don't know anything about a crime we witnessed or a number of things. People in life have a moral compass that helps them discern between the right way and the wrong way in life right? People can potentially lie to immigration about a number of things - they don't have produce in their bags (which could introduce a foreign species to the US), or that they are only here for a visit when they have immigrant intent - which makes things harder for those of us doing things the right way. 

 

I get what you are saying that "no one would know" - and admitting his previous use would make your wait another year and perhaps end up being financially more difficult for you - but it IS the right thing to do in life. Immigration to the US isn't a "right" - it's a privilege, and rules are in place for reasons - and trying to circumvent that or commit fraud just makes you a dishonest person. So ultimately the choices are up to him (and you to an extent, but mostly up to him) - but I just feel that when dealing with legal matters it's always best to tell the truth. 

[Redheadguy03 505]

If you lie and they find out they can pull any benefits you received. As in they can take away your green card, citizenship or any other visa you have. 

 

You also posted the question on this forum and I'm sure immigration has people who check this forum and keep track of things. They are very good about finding out things that you'd think they would never find out. Sometimes they interview family, friends, and other acquaintances and find things. 

 

Be honest to avoid any problems down the road. 

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

   posts in the back end leave identifying info that they can track if they wish,  You effectively  turn yourself in by posting that question here. 

[Mr Geminian 691]

Spycams or not....being honest is always the best thing to do because remember that truth will always win  

[JFH 12,190]

5 hours ago, Redheadguy03 said:

If you lie and they find out they can pull any benefits you received. As in they can take away your green card, citizenship or any other visa you have. 

 

You also posted the question on this forum and I'm sure immigration has people who check this forum and keep track of things. They are very good about finding out things that you'd think they would never find out. Sometimes they interview family, friends, and other acquaintances and find things. 

 

Be honest to avoid any problems down the road. 

Indeed. All they need to do is check timelines for NOA1 dates and the country flag, names, etc and they will soon find out who it is. 

 

There was once a post here that said that the site admins had run some stats and a huge percentage of the hits on this forum on any given day come from IP addresses that belong to USCIS and other government departments. 

 

What you wouldn't put on a billboard on the freeway you shouldn't put on a public forum. 

[kris&me 572]

why would an embassy spy on you? 

they don't know a case is coming to them until they get it or in cases of CR1 they know when NVC tells them

and then they can do certain things like in one case they ask to see the man's cell phone and saw he was talking to several women visa shopping

[Roel 7,192]

And here I always thought that being honest is just a simple human decency and everyone should practice it.

But nope. Apparently it's just a fear of being spied on...

[Dutchster 1,107]

I'm pretty sure the Embassy follows us around. They are the people wearing a beige trench coat, 'reading' a newspaper with two holes in it. 

[Jordan8768 107]

They might not spy on you but there'll see a stark change in body language when the question comes up... 

[Prof_Q 9]

I agree. Honesty is always the best policy

[Going through 5,671]

22 hours ago, h&at said:

So my question is, how does the embassy spy on us to know if we are lying about that or not about smoking weed 5 years ago at a dingy house party. Do they have a genie, or install secret spy cams while we are asleep? 

The same way spouses can tell when they are being cheated on.  Intuition, body language, shifty eyes, the way the person answers questions, previous actions, evidence and stories falling apart, finding other things out that lead to more questions, etc.

 

Always better to tell the truth.  It will always come out eventually anyhow.  Rather it should come out from your fiance now than have it bite him later on down the road and then everything he's ever said/filed for/done immigration-wise is brought into question....and it can come back to bite him hard, believe that if nothing else.

 

 

Edited September 22, 2017 by Going through

[Boiler 45,579]

Yup Tell the truth.