Almost Half of Millennials Would Apparently Give Up Their Right To Vote in Exchange for This One Thing

[Dashinka 25,011]

As student loan debt continues to soar, a new survey found nearly half of Millennials would give up their voting rights to have their loan debts canceled.

A stunning 49.8 percent of Millennials, according to a new Credible survey, would give up their right to vote in 2020 and 2024 in exchange for debt forgiveness.

It’s not surprising Millennials would give up quite a bit to eliminate their college debt. Across the U.S., there is $1.45 trillion in debt spread across more than 44 million people, and the median monthly loan payment is $203.

Losing the right to vote — even if only temporary — is quite the sacrifice, but it's apparently not much of one to the survey's respondents.

Only 13.2 percent reported being willing to give up texting “and any mobile messaging equivalent” for the next 12 months.

 

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/974035-almost-half-millennials-apparently-give-right-vote-exchange-one-thing/

 

Edited September 15, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

50 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

As student loan debt continues to soar, a new survey found nearly half of Millennials would give up their voting rights to have their loan debts canceled.

A stunning 49.8 percent of Millennials, according to a new Credible survey, would give up their right to vote in 2020 and 2024 in exchange for debt forgiveness.

It’s not surprising Millennials would give up quite a bit to eliminate their college debt. Across the U.S., there is $1.45 trillion in debt spread across more than 44 million people, and the median monthly loan payment is $203.

Losing the right to vote — even if only temporary — is quite the sacrifice, but it's apparently not much of one to the survey's respondents.

Only 13.2 percent reported being willing to give up texting “and any mobile messaging equivalent” for the next 12 months.

 

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/974035-almost-half-millennials-apparently-give-right-vote-exchange-one-thing/

 

That is because they are straight out idiots. I would never ever in my life give up my right to vote. 

Edited September 15, 2017 by cyberfx1024

[Ban Hammer 13,752]

i'd say let them do so - then have a vote to raise the taxes on people who lost the right to vote  

[X Factor 1,112]

What difference does it make

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, X Factor said:

What difference does it make

WHAT HAPPENED

[Steeleballz 7,550]

 

    

1 hour ago, X Factor said:

What difference does it make

 

    Good question. On average, forty five percent of eligible voters don't vote anyway, so not much difference. 

[TBoneTX 46,452]

There would go Hillary's chances for election during those years.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

  I guess it boils down to is it worth ~$30000 to skip voting in 2 elections. Given the choice of candidates we are likely to get, I really couldn't fault anyone for taking the cash. 

[Dashinka 25,011]

8 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

  I guess it boils down to is it worth ~$30000 to skip voting in 2 elections. Given the choice of candidates we are likely to get, I really couldn't fault anyone for taking the cash. 

So wouldn't that be essentially a poll tax, or at the very least literally buying a vote?  I could imagine if Trump were to actually suggest this.  Considering a large portion of millennials tend to lean DNC, the stories would be outrageous relative to Trump, or any RNC candidate trying to buy an election.

 

I realize this will never happen, but let's suppose for a moment.  I would propose that those getting their student loans paid off are not legally allowed to vote in the next three presidential elections, and all local, or off year elections including property tax votes for 12 years as well.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

What do you expect? They are Millennials.

If you want them to do something you need to pay them. Oh and even though you are paying me , I am going to need next week off.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

13 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So wouldn't that be essentially a poll tax, or at the very least literally buying a vote?  I could imagine if Trump were to actually suggest this.  Considering a large portion of millennials tend to lean DNC, the stories would be outrageous relative to Trump, or any RNC candidate trying to buy an election.

 

I realize this will never happen, but let's suppose for a moment.  I would propose that those getting their student loans paid off are not legally allowed to vote in the next three presidential elections, and all local, or off year elections including property tax votes for 12 years as well.

 

   It could end up seeming like that. I don't think that was the intent of the question in the poll, but it could be used that way. I guess I was making the case that roughly half of the people taking this hypothetical offer wouldn't have voted anyway, so I can see why they would readily take the money.

Edited September 16, 2017 by Steeleballz

[bcking 3,157]

I think poll results like this reflect a few things. Also keep in mind the survey was asking specifically about giving up the right to vote in the Presidential election in 2020/2024 only, not in other types of elections. Though I dont' know how many of the responders would have had a nuanced change in their answer if the question was different.

 

1. The demographic - 18-34 years of age, it would be interesting to see if they broke it down further if the people willing to give up the right to vote are on the younger side of that. I'd say the 18-25 year old period of life is one where you are not necessarily very forward thinking. You would take that extra 200 dollars cash every month in exchange for losing something in 4 years because the cash is right now, and 4 years is 4 years from now. You can let future self think about that.

 

2. The power of voting - While this isn't the place to debate the benefit of the electoral college system, I wouldn't fault some people for wondering what the point of voting for President is when each state is "winner takes all". I anticipate I'll be voting in Texas for President at least for 2020, possibly also in 2024. I tend to be left leaning and so I'm pretty confident based on the last numbers that Texas will go red regardless of whether I vote or not. If that is the case, my vote is meaningless. Now if I lived in a more contentious "battleground" state I may value my vote slightly more. The same would be true for a right-leaning person in California. You would need another 4 million Republicans voting in California in order to make it even a contentious election.

 

3. The median student loan debt is 17,000 but the range is vast. Many of my peers finished education with 150,000+ of debt (undergrad/medical school). Would I give up my right to vote in 2 presidential elections for 17,000 dollars? No. Would I do it for 150,000 dollars? Possibly (especially when combined with my current residential location in Texas, see point 2)

Edited September 16, 2017 by bcking

[TBoneTX 46,452]

No one has yet suggested sending the financial delinquents to Debtors' Prison.

[Dashinka 25,011]

9 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

No one has yet suggested sending the financial delinquents to Debtors' Prison.

Should we?

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

21 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

No one has yet suggested sending the financial delinquents to Debtors' Prison.

 

   Debtors prison was banned in 1833 and ruled unconstitutional in 1983 under the equal protection clause.

 

  Although after reading this article, I have to wonder.