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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/07/trump-administration-struggles-fate-900-dreamers-serving-military/640637001/

WASHINGTON — About 900 undocumented immigrants known as "DREAMers" are currently serving in the United States military, the Pentagon says — which could prove a major challenge for the Trump administration as it tries to wind down the Obama-era program that protected those immigrants from deportation.

Those service members — all of whom have health care or language skills the U.S. military considers vital — would be forced to leave the military under Trump policy that would rescind their protected status beginning next March.

The enlistees are a small proportion of the 800,000 immigrants who have received quasi-legal status under the program known as DACA, or Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. 

But they are also among the most symbolically important faces of the program, now that President Trump has called on Congress to resolve the fate of immigrants whose parents  brought them to the country illegally as children. 

The DACA enlistees are part of a Pentagon pilot project called Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest. The program waives certain citizenship requirements for green card holders, refugees and DACA recipients with skills that the military considers essential to the national interest.

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Trump: "The Kenyan let all those rapists, murderers, and drug smugglers into our military.  They've got to go!!!"

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28 minutes ago, Tahoma said:

Trump: "The Kenyan let all those rapists, murderers, and drug smugglers into our military.  They've got to go!!!"

but some are good people, who knew this is so hard?

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It's real simple. Obama put DACA in place illegally without Congress and Trump simply rescinded the illegal executive order. Now it is up to Congress to decide what to do. The legislative branch is responsible for legislating. Not the executive branch. I know some of you have a hard time grasping basic civics.

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Things that make you go HMMmmmmm....

 

 

This document lists the requirements for people to join the military (cliff notes, doctors, nurses, and those fluent in certain languages):

https://www.defense.gov/news/mavni-fact-sheet.pdf 

 

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The provision that called for DACA immigrants to be allowed to apply for MAVNI also called for renewing MAVNI through 2016.

 

Complications that have arisen in the process of folding DACA into the MAVNI program include the fact that undocumented immigrants lack some key documents that MAVNI requires.

 

Moreover, it would be highly difficult, if not impossible, to run a thorough security check on DACA immigrants, Stock said to Politico.

 

“The MAVNI program is not designed for DACA at all,” Stock said. “It was rather alarming to see DACAs being put into MAVNI. Someone didn’t know what they were doing.”

(Margaret Stock, a retired lieutenant colonel in the Army Reserve, was the creator of MAVNI)

 

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One powerful lawmaker pushing the Pentagon to allow young undocumented immigrants into the military was Sen. ####### Durbin (D-Ill.), who has sponsored legislation for more than a decade to give Dreamers legal status and was a member of the Senate Gang of Eight that wrote the comprehensive reform bill last year. Durbin also chairs the Senate subcommittee that oversees funding for the Pentagon.

 

Yes, it seems someone made a mess of things, trying to mix illegal aliens with LPRs.  The program was created to create a faster path to becoming a USC for the LPRs.  Almost looks like someone was trying to sneak some DACAs to USC in the program.

 

The quotes above are from: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/24/military-enlistment-program-for-immigrants-with-special-skills-put-on-hold.html

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The horror. The horror. Enlisting in the service to gain citizenship. Sneaky lot these Dreamers!

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44 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

The horror. The horror. Enlisting in the service to gain citizenship. Sneaky lot these Dreamers!

But. But. But.... they are all kids, why are they giving them guns?   The US military now recruiting poor dreamer kids, totally disgraceful. :protest:

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2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

It's real simple. Obama put DACA in place illegally without Congress and Trump simply rescinded the illegal executive order. Now it is up to Congress to decide what to do. The legislative branch is responsible for legislating. Not the executive branch. I know some of you have a hard time grasping basic civics.

Or logic, you forgot that we don't understand logic.

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22 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

CAN DACA recipients gain citizenship by enlisting in the military?  A simple yes or no would be great.

 

 

 

DACA is a program that puts enroll ees on a path to a LPR status...I don't think military service has any bearing.

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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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5 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

but some are good people, who knew this is so hard?

Trump: "They will fit right in the Mexican drug cartels!!!"

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2 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

But. But. But.... they are all kids, why are they giving them guns?   The US military now recruiting poor dreamer kids, totally disgraceful. :protest:

Generally speaking Dreamers aren't kids anymore. How dare they be productive, self sacrificing, honorable members of our Armed Services! The nerve!

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2 hours ago, IDWAF said:

CAN DACA recipients gain citizenship by enlisting in the military?  A simple yes or no would be great.

 

 

 

I honestly am not sure but foreigners serving in the military and becoming eligible for citizenship has long been possible.

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  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

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