Joint sponsor worry free contract

[larnar1309 101]

3 hours ago, geowrian said:

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-naturalization

You May Qualify for Naturalization if:

"You have been a permanent resident for 3 years or more and meet all eligibility requirements to file as a spouse of a U.S. citizen, please visit our Naturalization for Spouses of U.S. Citizens page for more information. "

Thanks very much  

 

20 minutes ago, AdnanS said:

 Not going to work, your contract will mean nothing in face of the Joint Sponsorship paper that your aunt will file.

 

Thanks for the reply. I see - well it's good to know what position we are in then.

[kris&me 572]

USC husband the petitioner and means you can have citzenship in 3 years

also you will have green card and can work so why an agreement?

CR1 less than 2 years married 2 year green caard

IR1 married over 2 years 10 year green card

 

[larnar1309 101]

24 minutes ago, kris&me said:

USC husband the petitioner and means you can have citzenship in 3 years

also you will have green card and can work so why an agreement?

CR1 less than 2 years married 2 year green caard

IR1 married over 2 years 10 year green card

 

 

Thanks for the reply. Because basically there is some risk that joint sponsors feel that the government could come for them.  Irrelevant of green card time - what's important for the contract is the amount of time until I could become a citizen and then their responsibilities end. 

[Boiler 45,535]

If you become a Citizen, nothing is certain.

 

NHS is for UK residents.

[larnar1309 101]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

If you become a Citizen, nothing is certain.

 

NHS is for UK residents.

 

Once I become a US citizen I wouldn't need the NHS. I would only need it during the time before that. 

[Boiler 45,535]

You are not eligible for the NHS.

 

If your Aunt is concerned she should see legal advise.

[Lemonslice 4,854]

5 minutes ago, larnar1309 said:

 

Once I become a US citizen I wouldn't need the NHS. I would only need it during the time before that. 

Why not get insurance in the US? Medical services on another continent doesn't seem realistic if you need urgent care. Also, I doubt you're eligible once you are no longer a resident. 

Edited September 9, 2017 by Lemonslice

[larnar1309 101]

2 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Why not get insurance in the US? Medical services on another contingent doesn't seem realistic if you need urgent care. Also, I doubt you're eligible once you are no longer a resident. 

 

Thanks for the response. Yes I would be under my husband's insurance. But in another scenario that people are discussing (e.g. People needing cancer treatment or very expensive treatment) I would return to the U.K. And use the Nhs. 

 

I understand that I wouldn't be eligible if I was an American citizen. However just for being out the U.K. For under 3 years doesn't mean I can't use the nhs. 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2017 by larnar1309

[larnar1309 101]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Not if you are living in the US.

Even if I was residing in the US - I am still a British citizen. That means I can use the NHS. I lived in Japan for 4 and a half years - when I came to England I could use the NHS no problem. 

 

But this is going off topic. 

 

I think I have all the answers I need for what I initially asked about.

 

thank you everyone who replied. And sorry if any of my messages seem cold. I am honestly thankful and this is just a stressful process as we all know. 

 

Best wishes.

Edited September 9, 2017 by larnar1309

[Lemonslice 4,854]

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/help-with-health-costs/nhs-charges-for-people-from-abroad/

[larnar1309 101]

2 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/help-with-health-costs/nhs-charges-for-people-from-abroad/

 

interesting - although it doesn't state really what the terms are in great detail. This didn't seem to happen to me coming back from overseas in the past and I spent 3+ years out of the U.K. 

[f f 725]

you should google

are british expats entitled to nhs care

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/expat-health/11571256/British-expats-from-outside-Europe-must-pay-for-NHS-hospital-care.html

[sparkles_ 456]

15 hours ago, larnar1309 said:

Hey All - hope your visa processes are all running smoothly.

 

Me and my husband (petitioner) have asked my aunt (who is a US citizen) to become my joint sponsor. 

 

After reading through all the i864 documents she is a little worried about the financial liabilities i.e. if I was to receive some form of public assistance in the future she could be sued for the amount of assistance that I was to receive during the 10 years she agrees to support me.

 

I have sent her a message to say that I would plan on getting my US Citizenship after 5 years so she would probably only be my joint sponsor until then but to make things easier for her I would like to make a contract between us where I can declare / promise not to use any public funding assistance during this 5 years and therefore she would not be in any danger of the government coming after her.

 

Has anyone created this type of legal contract between a joint sponsor before?

Does anyone have any suggestions for what I would need to include in the written contract for her to be safe?

 

I'm not too knowledgeable on the legal side of these things but if it would make her feel safer then this is something I would like to put forward. 

 

Thank you for any help / information

 

Best wishes!

 

Show her your state ruling on non citizens collecting welfare and assistance. All but a select few don't allow it unless you are a citizen, can't even apply. It's impossible for a green card holder to get welfare in the majority of states even if they qualified. That contract won't work because the i864 is a contract itself and you can't void it with another. It would trump anything you would have her sign. 

Edited September 9, 2017 by sparkles_

[andy78 178]

22 hours ago, larnar1309 said:

I have sent her a message to say that I would plan on getting my US Citizenship after 5 years so she would probably only be my joint sponsor until then but to make things easier for her I would like to make a contract between us where I can declare / promise not to use any public funding assistance during this 5 years and therefore she would not be in any danger of the government coming after her.

 

Has anyone created this type of legal contract between a joint sponsor before?

Does anyone have any suggestions for what I would need to include in the written contract for her to be safe?

 

 

The government will not come after you to enforce the I-864, even if you have a contract with your aunt. The I-864 is a contract between your aunt and the government. When the government decides to collect the money, they will go after your aunt, not you. And she will be the one legally required to pay them, not you. Even if you signed a contract with her.

 

I think that a more realistic approach would be a contract in which you promise to reimburse your aunt for any costs she incurs as a result of her signing the I-864.

 

Other things such as declaring/promising not use any public funds would be a worthless statement. If you have a right to apply for public funds, no one can contractually eliminate that right. Same for citizenship. You cannot contractually promise that you will gain citizenship in 3 or 5 years. First, there is no guarantee that you will gain citizenship if you apply for it. Second, you cannot be legally compelled to apply for citizenship, even if you signed a contract that says that you will.

 

In theory, you can have such a contract in which you promise reimburse your aunt. However, there is no "worry free" contract.

 

May be your aunt will agree to this, and may be the two of you can find the best wording for such a contract. However, you (both of you) may need to seek legal advice regarding how the contract should be worded.

 

Of course, whether such contract can be enforced (legally and/or realistically) is a totally different matter.

 

Edited September 9, 2017 by andy78