Sessions rescinds DACA

[Jacque67 7,328]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

Definition of hypocritical

1. :  characterized by behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel :  characterized by hypocrisy said that it was hypocritical to demand respect from students without respecting them in returna hypocritical gesture of modesty and virtue — Robert Graves; also :  being a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings :  being a hypocrite

 

😭

[jayjayj 571]

3 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Definition of hypocritical

1. :  characterized by behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel :  characterized by hypocrisy said that it was hypocritical to demand respect from students without respecting them in returna hypocritical gesture of modesty and virtue — Robert Graves; also :  being a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings :  being a hypocrite

 

Again, neither ironic nor hypocritical.  This is a site for legal immigration.  If you want to support people coming here illegally, go for it, you'll find many online sites dedicated to illegal immigration.

Edited September 7, 2017 by jayjayj

[smilesammich 10,727]

16 minutes ago, Mrs. Wild said:

I think this usually tends to lead people into circular arguments.

i'm going to venture this was the intention, full stop.

 

[Mrs. Wild 87]

A few people posted in here, many pages ago... so long, too lazy to search... about the 1980s amnesty and how that created this problem to begin with. That is simply incorrect. The illegal immigration bottleneck happened thanks to the restrictive immigration policies enacted in the late 1990s. It's when we have stricter immigration laws, that people will always try to circumvent them. Before the restrictive policies that brought us the 3 year and 10 year bans, people migrated back and forth. Since then, people just stayed. Hence the constant need for reforms for certain groups and not those immediately following them. And then another set of restrictive policies comes along, stranding a bunch of people, and then another need form reform. The immigration debate is cyclical.

[Jacque67 7,328]

 

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, smilesammich said:

i'm going to venture this was the intention, full stop.

 

Again with the GIF's????

[Teddy B 17,252]

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

There is another way to explain it.  Many people on here support legal immigration, not illegal immigration.  That isn't an emotional argument.  

When you break it down to the legal or illegal definition of it, yes you are correct there is no emotion. But when you add reasoning and logic to the circumstances these people are in through no fault of their own, which most folks with an ounce of compassion can do, then it does become a very emotional issue.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, jayjayj said:

Again with the GIF's????

again with the telling me how to post?????

[jayjayj 571]

1 minute ago, Mrs. Wild said:

A few people posted in here, many pages ago... so long, too lazy to search... about the 1980s amnesty and how that created this problem to begin with. That is simply incorrect. The illegal immigration bottleneck happened thanks to the restrictive immigration policies enacted in the late 1990s. It's when we have stricter immigration laws, that people will always try to circumvent them. Before the restrictive policies that brought us the 3 year and 10 year bans, people migrated back and forth. Since then, people just stayed. Hence the constant need for reforms for certain groups and not those immediately following them. And then another set of restrictive policies comes along, stranding a bunch of people, and then another need form reform. The immigration debate is cyclical.

It wouldn't be if illegal immigrants stopped coming into the country.  We would probably even welcome many of them with open arms, through legal avenues.

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

again with the telling me how to post?????

Yeap

[Jacque67 7,328]

3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i'm going to venture this was the intention, full stop.

 

Exactement mon brave. All roads lead to Paris!

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, Mrs. Wild said:

A few people posted in here, many pages ago... so long, too lazy to search... about the 1980s amnesty and how that created this problem to begin with. That is simply incorrect. The illegal immigration bottleneck happened thanks to the restrictive immigration policies enacted in the late 1990s. It's when we have stricter immigration laws, that people will always try to circumvent them. Before the restrictive policies that brought us the 3 year and 10 year bans, people migrated back and forth. Since then, people just stayed. Hence the constant need for reforms for certain groups and not those immediately following them. And then another set of restrictive policies comes along, stranding a bunch of people, and then another need form reform. The immigration debate is cyclical.

 

The immigration debate will always exist, so long as America remains a beacon for hope, freedom, a better life, and opportunity.

[Mrs. Wild 87]

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

It wouldn't be if illegal immigrants stopped coming into the country.  We would probably even welcome many of them with open arms, through legal avenues.

We did 😂😂 we have a long history of inviting immigrants here to work, and then kicking them out when they want to stay.

[jayjayj 571]

2 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

When you break it down to the legal or illegal definition of it, yes you are correct there is no emotion. But when you add reasoning and logic to the circumstances these people are in through no fault of their own, which most folks with an ounce of compassion can do, then it does become a very emotional issue.

They came here with no fault, but the moment they stayed after turning 18, it became their fault.  Are any DACA recipients still under the age of 18?

[Jacque67 7,328]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

again with the telling me how to post?????

Research pronouns, they fascinating. Did you see Spencer punch set to depeche mode btw?

It's almost like JackieP is amongst us!

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, jayjayj said:

They came here with no fault, but the moment they stayed after turning 18, it became their fault.  Are any DACA recipients still under the age of 18?

simply a ridiculous premise, expecting children that turn 18 to self deport, leaving their families and their lives behind. 

1 minute ago, Jacque67 said:

Research pronouns, they fascinating. Did you see Spencer punch set to depeche mode btw?

It's almost like JackieP is amongst us!

tis a bee-yoo-ti-full thing!!!!!