Sessions rescinds DACA

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

That's really the issue isn't it, the revolving door of immigration band aides.  I am not totally versed on DACA, but doesn't it only apply to those that have been living in the country since 2007 and were younger than 16 when they were brought here?  What happens to the same type of children that have been brought here illegally since 2007?  Will there need to be a DACA II at some point?  I do wish the politicians that want it would just come out and say they are for open boarders.  I heard an interview with a Dem lawmaker that kept saying he wanted to enforce the immigration laws, but kept going back to the fact that we needed to allow exceptions.  Which is it?  I know DACA was touted very nicely by labeling all those impacted by it as "Dreamers" which automatically labels anyone that criticizes the program as mean and nasty anti-immigration racists, but I would hesitate to find anyone on a site like this that is anti-immigration.

 

It wouldn't make much sense to abolish our immigration policies, which make room for exceptions, simply because a few politicians don't know how to deal with these exceptions. For as long as our country should presume to represent a place of hope and freedom, we will have to reconcile the notion that we will need to make changes to the existing laws, and accommodations for when the laws don't apply, as is the case of the dreamers.

 

Many of the criticism to DACA is expressed with xenophobic undertones, and that may be the reason you correctly call the individuals who so choose to express their bigotry "nasty anti-immigration racists."

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

7 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Hmm. From the guy who still holds sway over Donnie...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-bannon-on-trump-daca-decision-60-minutes/

 

catholic popes are are opposed to what's happening with DACA as they need more illegal aliens to fill the churches.

 

keep on stirring, Steve!

such hostility towards catholics. but for why?

 

[Jacque67 7,328]

7 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

such hostility towards catholics. but for why?

 

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[Jacque67 7,328]

9 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

such hostility towards catholics. but for why?

 

Bannon's ancestors came over on the Mayflower? He's on the social register?

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Bannon's ancestors came over on the Mayflower? He's on the social register?

[Jacque67 7,328]

19 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

Ah, Richard!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/meet-the-moscow-mouthpiece-married-to-a-racist-alt-right-boss

[Mrs. Wild 87]

7 hours ago, jayjayj said:

I guess I can't wrap my simple conservative mind around this, but can you explain to me what line they stood in to enter this country? 

DACA recipients go through the same motions in the immigration system as anyone else trying to receive a benefit. Those who were able to benefit from AOS through AP, did so as soon as they could. 

 

Plus... VWP people are allowed to AOS, they also don't stand in any lines.  

[Boiler 46,121]

1 minute ago, Mrs. Wild said:

DACA recipients go through the same motions in the immigration system as anyone else trying to receive a benefit. Those who were able to benefit from AOS through AP, did so as soon as they could. 

 

Plus... VWP people are allowed to AOS, they also don't stand in any lines.  

Please read the VJ ToS, my Bible, should be yours.

[Mrs. Wild 87]

7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Please read the VJ ToS, my Bible, should be yours.

I have read it, please point me in the right direction if I've done something wrong.  I simply don't understand the discrimination and/or hostility toward one group of immigrants over any other. I support anyone trying to do the right thing by submitting to the lengthy processes of the immigration system. DACA recipients do such a thing, given the limited scope of what is available to them.

 

 

[Jacque67 7,328]

4 minutes ago, Mrs. Wild said:

I have read it, please point me in the right direction if I've done something wrong.  I simply don't understand the discrimination and/or hostility toward one group of immigrants over any other. I support anyone trying to do the right thing by submitting to the lengthy processes of the immigration system. DACA recipients do such a thing, given the limited scope of what is available to them.

 

 

Welcome to CEHST 

 

[Jacque67 7,328]

6 minutes ago, Mrs. Wild said:

I have read it, please point me in the right direction if I've done something wrong.  I simply don't understand the discrimination and/or hostility toward one group of immigrants over any other. I support anyone trying to do the right thing by submitting to the lengthy processes of the immigration system. DACA recipients do such a thing, given the limited scope of what is available to them.

 

 

Also this:

 

[Boiler 46,121]

7 minutes ago, Mrs. Wild said:

I have read it, please point me in the right direction if I've done something wrong.  I simply don't understand the discrimination and/or hostility toward one group of immigrants over any other. I support anyone trying to do the right thing by submitting to the lengthy processes of the immigration system. DACA recipients do such a thing, given the limited scope of what is available to them.

 

 

DACA recipients are not Immigrants, the clue is in the title.

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

DACA recipients are not Immigrants, the clue is in the title.

 

Some of them are, although many have never known any other country than ours, so in that sense they are Americans. 

[Mrs. Wild 87]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

DACA recipients are not Immigrants, the clue is in the title.

I think this usually tends to lead people into circular arguments. This is where I say--but by definition they are, and maybe post the literal definition of the word "immigrant". 😉

 

Sarcasm aside, they're people who are trying to go about things the right way given the cards they were dealt. Parent brought them in, they grew up here, by the time they fully grasped the consequences of a decision made for them... They either racked up time for a ban or for those fortunate enough to get DACA immediately after turning 18, they turned to that process. A good chunk found pathways to permanent residency. 

[Boiler 46,121]

Just now, CaliCat said:

 

Some of them are, although many have never known any other country than ours, so in that sense they are Americans. 

Total tosh, I am not an American and never will be and have no doubt been here much longer than most of them.