UC Irvine puts pro-Palestinian activists on probation for disrupting Israeli event

[OriZ 3,157]

As always...guess who the real violent ones are? And the award goes to....those who claim to be for "peace and justice"! 

 

The University of California, Irvine put a group of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) activists on disciplinary probation for two academic years after they interrupted a speaking event with IDF reservists.

 

The UC Irvine campus is considered one of the bastions of the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions Movement (BDS) in the US and previous pro-Israeli events held at the university have been met with violent interruptions.

 

In May, a delegation from the NGO Reservists on Duty arrived at the university to speak at an event organized by Students Supporting Israel (SSI) during the Anti-Zionism Week on campus.

 

Some 40 activists from SJP disrupted a question-and-answer session for about half an hour, preventing students from talking to the Israeli reservists by shouting and swearing, with one of the activists spitting at a member of the Israeli delegation.

 

Some of them were wearing T-shirts with the writing "UC intifada" and chanted slogans advocating the destruction of Israel and violent resistance, including the slogans "Israel, Israel what do you say, how many kids have you killed today?" and "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free."

 

Campus police arrived at the scene some 10 minutes after the pro-Palestinian activists left voluntarily and crowded in the hall outside the room. The police had to escort the delegation members outside due to concern for their safety.

 

The Reservists on Duty NGO filed a complaint with the campus administration, and the university asked the campus police to investigate the clashes at the event.

 

The Israeli delegation provided campus police with videos documenting the disruptive activists, and claimed they've suffered from swearing, spitting and humiliations from SJP activists throughout the entire week while protesting the "apartheid wall" erected on campus.

 

The decision by UC Irvine's ethics committee to sanction the pro-Palestinian activists is unprecedented. The students will be on a two-year probationary period ending June 16, 2019, during which they will be required to attend 12 mandatory meetings with the Dean of Students to discuss free speech. They are also required to consult with a representative of the dean’s office before hosting or co-hosting any campus event. Any violation of these sanctions could "result in suspension or a revocation of the organization's status," according to the UCI Office of Inclusive Excellence.

 

The SJP activists appealed the decision on Thursday. The appeal process is expected to take several weeks.

 

Amit Deri, the director of Reservists on Duty, said Sunday, "We welcome the university's decision. SJP have crossed the legitimate line and have become an anti-Semitic body that spreads terrible lies and rains terror on Jewish and pro-Israeli students."

 

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5011870,00.html

[IAMX 3,055]

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The students will be on a two-year probationary period ending June 16, 2019, during which they will be required to attend 12 mandatory meetings with the Dean of Students to discuss free speech. They are also required to consult with a representative of the dean’s office before hosting or co-hosting any campus event. Any violation of these sanctions could "result in suspension or a revocation of the organization's status," according to the UCI Office of Inclusive Excellence.

 

Should be mandatory of leftists on every campus.

Edited September 5, 2017 by IAMX

[Steeleballz 7,550]

20 minutes ago, OriZ said:

As always...guess who the real violent ones are? And the award goes to....those who claim to be for "peace and justice"! 

 

 

     Was there any actual violence that you know of? The article said yelling, obscenities, humiliating behavior and spitting. Doesn't sound much different than a Donald Trump rally TBH.

 

     Not that I approve of that type of behavior, but if I'm seeing people condone it on one hand, I don't know how they decide to condemn it with the other. 

[Dashinka 24,364]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

     Was there any actual violence that you know of? The article said yelling, obscenities, humiliating behavior and spitting. Doesn't sound much different than a Donald Trump rally TBH.

 

     Not that I approve of that type of behavior, but if I'm seeing people condone it on one hand, I don't know how they decide to condemn it with the other. 

Who has condoned this behavior by any group other than those here defending Antifa and their tactics.  As usual, there are those that see the violence and inappropriate behavior from both sides and those that only see it on one side.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

41 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Who has condoned this behavior by any group other than those here defending Antifa and their tactics.  As usual, there are those that see the violence and inappropriate behavior from both sides and those that only see it on one side.

 

  So you're saying you condone this type of violent behavior at Trump rallies? 

[Dashinka 24,364]

Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

  So you're saying you condone this type of violent behavior at Trump rallies? 

Did I say that?  I don't think so as I have been on the record many times admonishing violent behavior from all groups regardless of their political bent.  Are you condoning the violent behavior of the Left Wing groups such as Antifa, or BLM?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 hours ago, OriZ said:

As always...guess who the real violent ones are? And the award goes to....those who claim to be for "peace and justice"! 

 

The University of California, Irvine put a group of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) activists on disciplinary probation for two academic years after they interrupted a speaking event with IDF reservists.

 

The UC Irvine campus is considered one of the bastions of the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions Movement (BDS) in the US and previous pro-Israeli events held at the university have been met with violent interruptions.

 

In May, a delegation from the NGO Reservists on Duty arrived at the university to speak at an event organized by Students Supporting Israel (SSI) during the Anti-Zionism Week on campus.

 

Some 40 activists from SJP disrupted a question-and-answer session for about half an hour, preventing students from talking to the Israeli reservists by shouting and swearing, with one of the activists spitting at a member of the Israeli delegation.

 

Some of them were wearing T-shirts with the writing "UC intifada" and chanted slogans advocating the destruction of Israel and violent resistance, including the slogans "Israel, Israel what do you say, how many kids have you killed today?" and "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free."

 

Campus police arrived at the scene some 10 minutes after the pro-Palestinian activists left voluntarily and crowded in the hall outside the room. The police had to escort the delegation members outside due to concern for their safety.

 

The Reservists on Duty NGO filed a complaint with the campus administration, and the university asked the campus police to investigate the clashes at the event.

 

The Israeli delegation provided campus police with videos documenting the disruptive activists, and claimed they've suffered from swearing, spitting and humiliations from SJP activists throughout the entire week while protesting the "apartheid wall" erected on campus.

 

The decision by UC Irvine's ethics committee to sanction the pro-Palestinian activists is unprecedented. The students will be on a two-year probationary period ending June 16, 2019, during which they will be required to attend 12 mandatory meetings with the Dean of Students to discuss free speech. They are also required to consult with a representative of the dean’s office before hosting or co-hosting any campus event. Any violation of these sanctions could "result in suspension or a revocation of the organization's status," according to the UCI Office of Inclusive Excellence.

 

The SJP activists appealed the decision on Thursday. The appeal process is expected to take several weeks.

 

Amit Deri, the director of Reservists on Duty, said Sunday, "We welcome the university's decision. SJP have crossed the legitimate line and have become an anti-Semitic body that spreads terrible lies and rains terror on Jewish and pro-Israeli students."

 

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5011870,00.html

Sounds like the system UC has in place worked.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Did I say that?  I don't think so as I have been on the record many times admonishing violent behavior from all groups regardless of their political bent.  Are you condoning the violent behavior of the Left Wing groups such as Antifa, or BLM?

  

   I just said I don't approve of that type of behavior.

 

  However back to my original post, I'm not sure why this group in the article is being referred to as "the real violent ones". Seems the worst they did was spit and swear. Deplorable, I suppose, but not really violent. I hope this is not that virtue signalling stuff I keep hearing about.

 

 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 hours ago, IAMX said:

 

Should be mandatory of leftists on every campus.

Hah! You suggest they round up folks and put them on probation based on their beliefs and not actions?

 

 ALL "leftists" ? 

 

 

[Dashinka 24,364]

Just now, Steeleballz said:

  

   I just said I don't approve of that type of behavior.

 

  However back to my original post, I'm not sure why this group in the article is being referred to as "the real violent ones". Seems the worst they did was spit and swear. Deplorable, I suppose, but not really violent. I hope this is not that virtue signalling stuff I keep hearing about.

 

 

And I also said essentially the same thing yet you felt the need to ask me the question.  I don't know about you, but spitting can be considered battery, and last I heard, battery is considered a violent act.  And swearing could be confided assault.

 

Elements

The following elements must be proven to establish a case for battery: (1) an act by a defendant; (2) anintent to cause harmful or offensive contact on the part of the defendant; and (3) harmful or offensivecontact to the plaintiff.

The Act The act must result in one of two forms of contact. Causing any physical harm or injury to thevictim—such as a cut, a burn, or a bullet wound—could constitute battery, but actual injury is notrequired. Even though there is no apparent bruise following harmful contact, the defendant can still beguilty of battery; occurrence of a physical illness subsequent to the contact may also be actionable.The second type of contact that may constitute battery causes no actual physical harm but is, instead,offensive or insulting to the victim. Examples include spitting in someone's face or offensively touchingsomeone against his or her will.

 

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Battery

 

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

10 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

And I also said essentially the same thing yet you felt the need to ask me the question.  I don't know about you, but spitting can be considered battery, and last I heard, battery is considered a violent act.  And swearing could be confided assault.

 

 

  We didn't exactly say the same thing, you just think we did. I don't want to get into a slippery slope over violence. There's a reason that's considered a type of logical fallacy you know. Before you know it we'll be adding toddlers to the list of violent groups.

[Dashinka 24,364]

12 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

  We didn't exactly say the same thing, you just think we did. I don't want to get into a slippery slope over violence. There's a reason that's considered a type of logical fallacy you know. Before you know it we'll be adding toddlers to the list of violent groups.

Not really sure anyone suggested that Antifa or BLM, or in this case a Palestinian organization were just simple children, unless you look at how they (specifically Antifa) acts when their masks are removed.  But you are right, we didn't say the same thing, I said that any violent act by any group from any political bent deserves to be condemned, yet you tried to say that this group was non-violent since they just spit and swore at people.  As stated in my earlier reply, spitting is considered battery, or were the laws changed?

[OriZ 3,157]

4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

And I also said essentially the same thing yet you felt the need to ask me the question.  I don't know about you, but spitting can be considered battery, and last I heard, battery is considered a violent act.  And swearing could be confided assault.

 

Elements

The following elements must be proven to establish a case for battery: (1) an act by a defendant; (2) anintent to cause harmful or offensive contact on the part of the defendant; and (3) harmful or offensivecontact to the plaintiff.

The Act The act must result in one of two forms of contact. Causing any physical harm or injury to thevictim—such as a cut, a burn, or a bullet wound—could constitute battery, but actual injury is notrequired. Even though there is no apparent bruise following harmful contact, the defendant can still beguilty of battery; occurrence of a physical illness subsequent to the contact may also be actionable.The second type of contact that may constitute battery causes no actual physical harm but is, instead,offensive or insulting to the victim. Examples include spitting in someone's face or offensively touchingsomeone against his or her will.

 

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Battery

 

 

Not to mention the violent threats they constantly make, the intimidation, and at times following through on it as well, physically. Not that spitting isn't enough, some people just have blinders on I guess. I can tell ya if I got spat at there by one of thoese goons it wouldn't go over very well.

[OriZ 3,157]

4 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Sounds like the system UC has in place worked.

This time it did.

 

3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Not really sure anyone suggested that Antifa or BLM, or in this case a Palestinian organization were just simple children, unless you look at how they (specifically Antifa) acts when their masks are removed.  But you are right, we didn't say the same thing, I said that any violent act by any group from any political bent deserves to be condemned, yet you tried to say that this group was non-violent since they just spit and swore at people.  As stated in my earlier reply, spitting is considered battery, or were the laws changed?

But hey, marching peacefully and saying jews will not replace us isn't peaceful. Spitting at people, as long as you are in a pro palestinian/leftist group and they are jews/israelis - perfectly peaceful.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Not really sure anyone suggested that Antifa or BLM, or in this case a Palestinian organization were just simple children, unless you look at how they (specifically Antifa) acts when their masks are removed.  But you are right, we didn't say the same thing, I said that any violent act by any group from any political bent deserves to be condemned, yet you tried to say that this group was non-violent since they just spit and swore at people.  As stated in my earlier reply, spitting is considered battery, or were the laws changed?

 

   AFAIK spitting "at" would be simple assault if charged. You would have to actually hit for it to be battery. I'm not an expert though. 

 

   An act can be criminal without be violent. A better argument would be that they were criminals. "Real violent", IDK about that.