I129f September 2017 filers

[AbenaKofi 132]

1 hour ago, HarmonyAndYoussef said:

I am not sure how this post is going to come off, but - sorry if it comes off too blunt/mean and kudos to those who understand.

No one here is an expert on the USCIS. We give each other advice and answers that we know based on the country we're applying for.

We are ALL literally doing our best to understand how the process works, which documents are needed, etc

Not one of you is any better than the next....

I say this because I receive messages asking why I'm doing, why I'm doing that... ever since I posted that I'm printing 200 pictures.

That is MY choice. We are printing them ANYWAY. We had a GIANT traditional morrocan engagement party. Those only we selected 80 to print.

You can really take whatever you want to the interview. No one here has walked in and asked a CO personally what they're looking at. Some say take screen shots, others say

just print the conversation. (I choose screen shots, because the other version looks like you can just edit it on Word.)

I truly wish everyone the best of luck, but do whats in your heart. No one here should tell you what they are going to look at during the interview. If you want 5 pictures, a few convos - do it.

If you want an entire photo album and the entire conversation since you met. Do it. 

Just irritating to see people assume they know how the interview will go. It can be 5 min or an hour. You just never know... and I for one, rather be overly prepared. Good luck to everyone

We can all get a little too bogged down by these small details - you're right, at the end of the day we're all responsible for our own cases!  When all else fails I just think of the couples on 90-Day Fiance - if THEY made it through, it can't be that hard! Have a good weekend 

[SMcNally 37]

Hi all,

Joined the forums a month ago. Saw this thread a week ago and finally, finished reading all of it. We are September 11th filers. It looks like it shouldn't be long now

I've been collecting all the documents for the interview stage. Took a month to get the PCCs from 4 countries. Now onto the I-134. I have a question though: Can I have multiple joint sponsors? I have two lined up. Both earn more than the 125% requirement. I thought having two joint sponsors though would just strengthen my case but is that dumb? As in, should I just go with the one joint sponsor? I've been to 3 USA visa interviews before and I've always gone with tons of pages of documents and they hardly ever look at more than 1-2 of them.  And an additional question for the future: Can I have more than one joint sponsor for the I-864? Thank you.

[Naes 12,205]

5 hours ago, HarmonyAndYoussef said:

I am not sure how this post is going to come off, but - sorry if it comes off too blunt/mean and kudos to those who understand.

No one here is an expert on the USCIS. We give each other advice and answers that we know based on the country we're applying for.

We are ALL literally doing our best to understand how the process works, which documents are needed, etc

Not one of you is any better than the next....

I say this because I receive messages asking why I'm doing, why I'm doing that... ever since I posted that I'm printing 200 pictures.

That is MY choice. We are printing them ANYWAY. We had a GIANT traditional morrocan engagement party. Those only we selected 80 to print.

You can really take whatever you want to the interview. No one here has walked in and asked a CO personally what they're looking at. Some say take screen shots, others say

just print the conversation. (I choose screen shots, because the other version looks like you can just edit it on Word.)

I truly wish everyone the best of luck, but do whats in your heart. No one here should tell you what they are going to look at during the interview. If you want 5 pictures, a few convos - do it.

If you want an entire photo album and the entire conversation since you met. Do it. 

Just irritating to see people assume they know how the interview will go. It can be 5 min or an hour. You just never know... and I for one, rather be overly prepared. Good luck to everyone

I have to agree with some here, by posting it here you make it an open conversation.

An MY opinion is it is ridiculous to take 200 pictures to an interview. cause it won't take 1 hour - you'd probably be getting a denial if an interview of K1 takes an hour.

 

This forum is to help with experience, and what everyone reads. Of course you can carry a suitcase full of pictures, if that looks normal to you.

To me? It looks like trying too hard to show you are not a fake couple... It looks like trying reaaaalll hard.

 

So of course you can do whichever you like, but this is not bluntness when you write this, it is as if you're pissed that people are commenting.

But people will comment as long as you put it out here, not to make your case fail, they are commenting to help because probably they also thought "isn't that a red flag??" And if you don't want ideas then why put it on a support forum?

 

 

Edited February 24, 2018 by Naes

[ChuAni 1,191]

30 minutes ago, Naes said:

I have to agree with some here, by posting it here you make it an open conversation.

An MY opinion is it is ridiculous to take 200 pictures to an interview. cause it won't take 1 hour - you'd probably be getting a denial if an interview of K1 takes an hour.

 

This forum is to help with experience, and what everyone reads. Of course you can carry a suitcase full of pictures, if that looks normal to you.

To me? It looks like trying too hard to show you are not a fake couple... It looks like trying reaaaalll hard.

 

So of course you can do whichever you like, but this is not bluntness when you write this, it is as if you're pissed that people are commenting.

But people will comment as long as you put it out here, not to make your case fail, they are commenting to help because probably they also thought "isn't that a red flag??" And if you don't want ideas then why put it on a support forum?

 

 

Seriously! I agree with you on People's Experiences here!

 

 When I joined VJ, I heard so much negativity about Nigeria Embassy. People ranting about 'how tough it is', 'high fraud' and so much more. They will put pressure on you, 'front loading this and that', 'go with tons of papers' during the interview, 'how your fiance must visit thousands of times'.

 

I sent a direct message to one couple that had their interview early February, 2018 at the Nigerian Embassy, asking them about their interview. I was so shocked to the marrow when they told me that they attended the interview with just **'A collage of 6 pictures and a screenshot of 1 page of whatsapp chat' and the pictures were from his only (1) visit to Nigeria'**. Like seriously????

 

You see! and the VISA was Approved! The couple advised me and I changed my mind of the number of evidence I was preparing to take to the interview. 

 

Another couple, had a 4-day visit and they were approved.

 

These happened at the same Embassy I've heard crazy things about. The same Embassy, they told me that they deny due to 'one visit'. 

 

The fact is, keep it simple and COs suspect when there are loads of evidence.

 

I can remember I read somewhere 'Ghana Embassy', a couple was denied based on 'Too married for K-1 visa'. They attended the interview with loads of pictures showing their engagement party, pastor blessing them during the party etc. 

 

Edited February 24, 2018 by ChuAni

[Naes 12,205]

25 minutes ago, ChuAni said:

Seriously! I agree with you on People's Experiences here!

 

 When I joined VJ, I heard so much negativity about Nigeria Embassy. People ranting about 'how tough it is', 'high fraud' and so much more. They will put pressure on you, 'front loading this and that', 'go with tons of papers' during the interview, 'how your fiance must visit thousands of times'.

 

I sent a direct message to one couple that had their interview early February, 2018 at the Nigerian Embassy, asking them about their interview. I was so shocked to the marrow when they told me that they attended the interview with just **'A collage of 6 pictures and a screenshot of 1 page of whatsapp chat' and the pictures were from his only (1) visit to Nigeria'**. Like seriously????

 

You see! and the VISA was Approved! The couple advised me and I changed my mind of the number of evidence I was preparing to take to the interview. 

 

Another couple, had a 4-day visit and they were approved.

 

These happened at the same Embassy I've heard crazy things about. The same Embassy, they told me that they deny due to 'one visit'. 

 

The fact is, keep it simple and COs suspect when there are loads of evidence.

 

I can remember I read somewhere 'Ghana Embassy', a couple was denied based on 'Too married for K-1 visa'. They attended the interview with loads of pictures showing their engagement party, pastor blessing them during the party etc. 

 

I'm thinking more about how every veteran here says; too much frontloading and how trying too hard may seem like a minus instead of a plus to your case and opens up the door to too many questions that may cause them to find an opening to just say no.

 

which in my experience of getting visas and entering US is a legit problem, the more you do the more it give them things to suspect even when there's nothing.

 

but harmony had many travels so I also understand the evidence to prove those will also be a lot. However anything over than 50+ (and this number is high because they have a hard embassy too) is overkilling it. And when something is written here as I always say other people read it and they don't always know what a hard embassy is or read the rest of the comments, and up assuming everyone should take 200 pictures. If I try to take 200 pictures to USEM in japan I'm not even sure I could pass security 😂

 

However hope everything turns out for the best.

[Kswaf297 43]

How far back do they look for in a chat app. We've been using FB messenger for 3 years.... 😂😂

[ChuAni 1,191]

1 minute ago, Kswaf297 said:

How far back do they look for in a chat app. We've been using FB messenger for 3 years.... 😂😂

You can grab some random shots from the first year till present. 

[ChuAni 1,191]

5 minutes ago, Naes said:

I'm thinking more about how every veteran here says; too much frontloading and how trying too hard may seem like a minus instead of a plus to your case and opens up the door to too many questions that may cause them to find an opening to just say no.

 

which in my experience of getting visas and entering US is a legit problem, the more you do the more it give them things to suspect even when there's nothing.

 

but harmony had many travels so I also understand the evidence to prove those will also be a lot. However anything over than 50+ (and this number is high because they have a hard embassy too) is overkilling it. And when something is written here as I always say other people read it and they don't always know what a hard embassy is or read the rest of the comments, and up assuming everyone should take 200 pictures. If I try to take 200 pictures to USEM in japan I'm not even sure I could pass security 😂

 

However hope everything turns out for the best.

Yes!

 

 Security? Lol! 😂😂 It will show 404!

[shawarma_frites 21]

2 hours ago, ChuAni said:

 

I can remember I read somewhere 'Ghana Embassy', a couple was denied based on 'Too married for K-1 visa'. They attended the interview with loads of pictures showing their engagement party, pastor blessing them during the party etc. 

 

 

How is that possible? In the eyes of the U.S. government--you're either legally married or not. A spiritual union is not a state-sanctioned marriage in the U.S. If they didn't have a marriage decree issued by some level of the Ghana Government, then how could the U.S. consider that a marriage? If they were denied a K-1, but didn't have a marriage decree, how could they possibly be eligible for the K-3 or IR1/CR1? Did they really leave them in a bureaucratic grey area like that?

[Mrsjackson 300]

16 minutes ago, shawarma_frites said:

 

How is that possible? In the eyes of the U.S. government--you're either legally married or not. A spiritual union is not a state-sanctioned marriage in the U.S. If they didn't have a marriage decree issued by some level of the Ghana Government, then how could the U.S. consider that a marriage? If they were denied a K-1, but didn't have a marriage decree, how could they possibly be eligible for the K-3 or IR1/CR1? Did they really leave them in a bureaucratic grey area like that?

I totally agree with you and find that extreme as well but I think it has something to do with the fact that in some places a religious or spiritual ceremony actually does render a couple legally married in that country. I could be wrong.

[ana e jordan 140]

7 minutes ago, Mrsjackson said:

I totally agree with you and find that extreme as well but I think it has something to do with the fact that in some places a religious or spiritual ceremony actually does render a couple legally married in that country. I could be wrong.

26 minutes ago, shawarma_frites said:

 

How is that possible? In the eyes of the U.S. government--you're either legally married or not. A spiritual union is not a state-sanctioned marriage in the U.S. If they didn't have a marriage decree issued by some level of the Ghana Government, then how could the U.S. consider that a marriage? If they were denied a K-1, but didn't have a marriage decree, how could they possibly be eligible for the K-3 or IR1/CR1? Did they really leave them in a bureaucratic grey area like that?

 

It's really a mistery, but I remember reading a lot of advises here to do not make any kind of celebration before time. Anything that could possibly be misinterpreted by the ones investigating your relationship, so as this process is long and hard enough just keep it simple and plan a nice official wedding with your loved one in the U.S. 😍

 

I believe that for some countries a religious or traditional ceremony could already represent a legal marriage, probably that's the reason, but just guessing.

[Naes 12,205]

33 minutes ago, shawarma_frites said:

 

How is that possible? In the eyes of the U.S. government--you're either legally married or not. A spiritual union is not a state-sanctioned marriage in the U.S. If they didn't have a marriage decree issued by some level of the Ghana Government, then how could the U.S. consider that a marriage? If they were denied a K-1, but didn't have a marriage decree, how could they possibly be eligible for the K-3 or IR1/CR1? Did they really leave them in a bureaucratic grey area like that?

It is actually one of the biggest and most seen reasons of denial.

 

Cultural and Traditional ways of doing things are really important in the eyes of USEM.

they are also not eligible for CR1 or such, it is "too married for K1, not married enough for CR1"

[Filipe Kramer 10]

guys when do you think they are gonna start september cases? this week was a bit of a frustration to me since there was no much movement as far as k1 visa. Well, day 166 and my eyes are glowing looking at what is right on the corner.  I wonder if they are gonna get us started within 2 weeks. what do you think? also, when are you guys thinking you are gonna get married? I hope for my wedding around May  

[ChuAni 1,191]

11 minutes ago, Filipe Kramer said:

guys when do you think they are gonna start september cases? this week was a bit of a frustration to me since there was no much movement as far as k1 visa. Well, day 166 and my eyes are glowing looking at what is right on the corner.  I wonder if they are gonna get us started within 2 weeks. what do you think? also, when are you guys thinking you are gonna get married? I hope for my wedding around May  

@Naes estimated Next Week, although she will work on her scans this weekend to give us highlight of what to expect.

 

 

[ChuAni 1,191]

2 hours ago, Naes said:

It is actually one of the biggest and most seen reasons of denial.

 

Cultural and Traditional ways of doing things are really important in the eyes of USEM.

they are also not eligible for CR1 or such, it is "too married for K1, not married enough for CR1"

💯% Correct! "too married for k1, not married enough for CR1.

 

The most seen reasons for denial.

 

@shawarma_frites, @ana e jordan, @Mrsjackson try to visit #Ghana and #Nigerian Embassy Portals here on VJ and read about the denials some couples experienced. 

 

In Nigeria, a traditional marriage is seen as the person is married, and automatically 'ineligible for k1'. Some COs ask questions like 'Any Ceremony in Nigeria?' Even large engagement parties are frowned at, with all the reviews I've read.

Edited February 24, 2018 by ChuAni