I129f September 2017 filers

[geowrian 22,338]

4 minutes ago, HarmonySalama said:

Agreed that no one should book a wedding when you never know what'll happen. But if an individual wants to apply to expedite, the worse that can happen is they get denied. For me, I rather try to do what I can to bring my fiancé here as quick as possible. 

I hear you and any individual has the right to request an expedite. But at the same time, frivolous requests slow down the system for the people who are in dire need of an expedite: those who are being deployed by the military, those in war zones, those facing life and death medical conditions, those living in areas with ongoing terrorist attacks, etc.

[Naes 12,205]

If a wedding could expedite.. then everybody would just have a wedding date and place..so please let us know if it gets expedited... 

 

our whole town is on fire and my venue is barely saved, I'd sure as hell want to hear that expedite happening....

1 minute ago, HarmonySalama said:

It's the same for the entire process though! My fiancé is from Morocco. It's been said 8 of 10 interviews can denied for fraud. Can you add that up even if they held just like 10 interviews a week and 8 were constantly denied, how many other couples that are genuine can get an interview instead? I hate saying this because it makes me seem like I think the process is a joke when I know it's not because I'm part of it. The lady over the phone said medical condition was a possible expedite so I'm trying once they email me with what proof is needed. I really hope anyone truly in love spends their days happy and this process is just a thing of the pass. For me, I'm more annoyed bc we want to move back to morocco eventually but I want him to spend time with my family and friends and marry in front of grandparents that can't make it to morocco! 

The process IS a joke  

 

if I could get my hands on one of those fraud cases I would punch it to the other end of the universe 

[Naes 12,205]

2 minutes ago, HarmonySalama said:

Hahaha touché .. and I know. We used rapid visa and even they said approval rates are terrible here but I don't know what to say. I spent 3 months, then another 3 months and then a 2 week trip followed by another 2 week trip in addition to all the time Skyped. I really can't see them thinking we aren't genuine. We spent so much money to have a beautiful traditions Moroccan engagement and it just scares me that the fate of us will be based on one person who's in a bad mood or something  I just pray. All I can. Pray, try to expedite and continue to spend 700$ on round trip flights lol I'd stay another 3 months but they'll need proof I'm working which is why I'm back in the first place !!

Oh that's really good.. really good that you guys had that many visits I hope it will work for you really! 

 

It is frustrating to see real couples get all the trouble while some weirdos can actually get around the system!

 

I understand their reasoning too, however still unacceptable! 

 

I hope our time time will come soon!!! 

[Madeline & Matt 252]

It’s a bit unfair to compare circumstances. We all go into this a bit blind. We don’t know what is going to happen or how long it’s ever going to take.

It’s not about “just a wedding” or just the loss of a job. It’s a multitude of circumstances. It wasn’t until after we had signed contracts and filed that I found all kinds of websites and resources and things that said “never make wedding plans until you have a visa in hand.”

I’ve seen plenty of things that irritate me in this process- like a thread where someone got an approved expedite because they took a week off work to take a trip to bring their fiancé to the US.

Someone’s “frivolous circumstance” is another’s life. It took me months to save for this visa, and it’s been over a year in the making to pay for everything. I’m not in a financial place to just re-book everything.

We are all dealing with a screwed up, broken process where we don’t have control. We just hope for the best, and do what we can to make things work. 

Hindsight is always 20/20. We are all human and make mistakes. But I feel like we should be building each other up and hoping for the best for everyone instead of judging who is worthy of an expedite. That’s the USCIS officer’s job.

[Madeline & Matt 252]

1 minute ago, HarmonySalama said:

Truth. Worst that can happen is they say no. At least you tried.

Exactly. And if they say no, we go back into the queue with everyone else. I just feel like we should be supportive of one another. We are all stuck in a pile of poo, basically. It’s sucks. It’s hard. And we all need to have each other’s backs. It’s hard enough to go through this, and having support of others in the same place is so nice.

[Naes 12,205]

15 minutes ago, madelineshea said:

It’s a bit unfair to compare circumstances. We all go into this a bit blind. We don’t know what is going to happen or how long it’s ever going to take.

It’s not about “just a wedding” or just the loss of a job. It’s a multitude of circumstances. It wasn’t until after we had signed contracts and filed that I found all kinds of websites and resources and things that said “never make wedding plans until you have a visa in hand.”

I’ve seen plenty of things that irritate me in this process- like a thread where someone got an approved expedite because they took a week off work to take a trip to bring their fiancé to the US.

Someone’s “frivolous circumstance” is another’s life. It took me months to save for this visa, and it’s been over a year in the making to pay for everything. I’m not in a financial place to just re-book everything.

We are all dealing with a screwed up, broken process where we don’t have control. We just hope for the best, and do what we can to make things work. 

Hindsight is always 20/20. We are all human and make mistakes. But I feel like we should be building each other up and hoping for the best for everyone instead of judging who is worthy of an expedite. That’s the USCIS officer’s job.

Nobody is judging who is worthy of expedite. But I want fair. Everybody wants to be treated fair. 

 

So so yeah let's all try to expedite for everything and send allllll the papers and let's get popcorn and watch how everything for everyone will get faster cause they will be continuously checking expeditability.

 

edit: btw I would be happy to see if expedite works seriously I'm in line to apply if it does and I'm sure that line would go long 😂😂

Edited December 21, 2017 by Naes

[Madeline & Matt 252]

5 minutes ago, Naes said:

Nobody is judging who is worthy of expedite. But I want fair. Everybody wants to be treated fair. 

 

So so yeah let's all try to expedite for everything and send allllll the papers and let's get popcorn and watch how everything for everyone will get faster cause they will be continuously checking expeditability 

You have to meet criteria to expedite. Not everyone is eligible. To quote a wise professor of mine "fair is not about getting what you want, it's about being treated equitably." Not everyone's case is created equal. It depends on many, many factors. And some people meet the criteria to expedite, and they're the "lucky ones."

Nothing about this process is "fair." Cases aren't always processed in order, and there are people that get skipped and wait months longer than someone who filed a day before them. USCIS doesn't really have to follow any specific guidelines. They don't have to meet certain processing times.

For those who feel that they qualify for expedite based on USCIS criteria, there really is no harm in pursuing it. They just happen to meet the guidelines, so why not?

 

1 minute ago, HarmonySalama said:

I hope it works out for you. I think people just wish they could do something More. It's the holidays , people are alone, they're not  understanding what's takin so long. It's sad. We just want our forever to start as soon as possible. Let me know how it goes! Do you even know if an expedite gets approved, how much sooner the chances of approval are?

From my understanding, they review your case upon expedite, and if you've got everything in order, and they don't require more evidence, then you get your approval and move onto the National Visa Center and Consulate processes. If they need more evidence, they'll submit the RFEs, you supply the evidence, and then a decision is made.

I'm not sure how clear I am being, so I hope I answered your question! haha

[Naes 12,205]

5 minutes ago, HarmonySalama said:

I hope it works out for you. I think people just wish they could do something More. It's the holidays , people are alone, they're not  understanding what's takin so long. It's sad. We just want our forever to start as soon as possible. Let me know how it goes! Do you even know if an expedite gets approved, how much sooner the chances of approval are?

You ask then they ask you for evidence for expedite. Usually you know if they're going to let you expedite in around 2 weeks. Then it can be rfe if there's any and that will still make it longer (someone in June waited 1 month because of the rfe after expediting) so give and take a month or so. But NVC is also stuck right now so most people got expedited are also waiting there. This is the timeline now  

[Naes 12,205]

19 minutes ago, madelineshea said:

You have to meet criteria to expedite. Not everyone is eligible. To quote a wise professor of mine "fair is not about getting what you want, it's about being treated equitably." Not everyone's case is created equal. It depends on many, many factors. And some people meet the criteria to expedite, and they're the "lucky ones."

Nothing about this process is "fair." Cases aren't always processed in order, and there are people that get skipped and wait months longer than someone who filed a day before them. USCIS doesn't really have to follow any specific guidelines. They don't have to meet certain processing times.

For those who feel that they qualify for expedite based on USCIS criteria, there really is no harm in pursuing it. They just happen to meet the guidelines, so why not?

 

From my understanding, they review your case upon expedite, and if you've got everything in order, and they don't require more evidence, then you get your approval and move onto the National Visa Center and Consulate processes. If they need more evidence, they'll submit the RFEs, you supply the evidence, and then a decision is made.

I'm not sure how clear I am being, so I hope I answered your question! haha

Believe me I know it's not fair.

 

but if you think someone "having a wedding ready" and will lose money is a rare case that would also be naive. I didn't say your case is just another case. I said then everyone can try and push those.

 

and the more expedite we would send if definitely not going to make anything easy or fast for anyone.

 

for me my case is unique and should be expedited. Then all the people who barely meet the affidavit requirements should get expedite because they need to keep their money, everybody has anxiety disorder should get an expedite cause they'll get more anxious. 

 

The main thing thats said in every visa application: do not make plans before you have the visa.

 

so if you have financial hardship? Yes you can and should apply for expedite.

 

if you made wedding plans and that's the reason: I'm sorry but you're not alone.

 

we are stating the facts not judging you because you're going to try. I would try if I saw any meaning to it. Does it hurt if 1 person does it? No I don't think so. Would it hurt if everyone with wedding plans do it? Yeah it would hurt everyone who's waiting here. Including the ones who tried and get denied the expedite.

Edited December 21, 2017 by Naes

[geowrian 22,338]

I'm not judging any individual or their specific case (especially since I do not know the details of it). I'm just saying that while no individual expedite request causes a direct or immediate impact, there are consequences in numbers. People have literally died as a result of waiting for an expedite that arrived too late, and others had to endure other serious and heartbreaking consequences while waiting. Everybody wants their case handled in a fair and reasonable manner yet as quickly as possible, but when others suffer as a result, that should be part of one's consideration.

[Madeline & Matt 252]

3 minutes ago, Naes said:

Believe me I know it's not fair.

 

but if you think someone "having a wedding ready" and will lose money is a rare case that would also be naive. I didn't say your case is just another case. I said then everyone can try and push those.

 

and the more expedite we would send if definitely not going to make anything easy or fast for anyone.

 

for me my case is unique and should be expedited. Then all the people who barely meet the affidavit requirements should get expedite because they need to keep their money, everybody has anxiety disorder should get an expedite cause they'll get more anxious. 

 

The main thing thats said in every visa application: do not make plans before you have the visa.

 

so if you have financial hardship? Yes you can and should apply for expedite.

 

if you made wedding plans and that's the reason: I'm sorry but you're not alone.

 

we are stating the facts not judging you because you're going to try. I would try if I saw any meaning to it. Does it hurt if 1 person does it? No I don't think so. Would it hurt if everyone with wedding plans do it? Yeah it would hurt everyone whose waiting here. Including the ones who tried and get denied the expedite.

Financial loss is the key- not "I planned a wedding and want to f**k the system." Do some people probably do that? Sure. I'd believe it.

The fact remains that I stand to lose a large sum of money if my visa is not expedited. My wedding plans could go entirely awry and something awful could happen tomorrow, and I wouldn't give half a #######. But the fact remains, I would like to try to NOT lose thousands of dollars.

You're assuming my motives and that the wedding is the important part.  The FINANCIAL LOSS is the important part.

It is ridiculous and impossible to request an expedite because of plans. That's not the criteria. I didn't magically make my own criteria.

 

I understand that you and others are frustrated, but in your frustration, you misunderstand.

 

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

I'm not judging any individual or their specific case (especially since I do not know the details of it). I'm just saying that while no individual expedite request causes a direct or immediate impact, there are consequences in numbers. People have literally died as a result of waiting for an expedite that arrived too late, and others had to endure other serious and heartbreaking consequences while waiting. Everybody wants their case handled in a fair and reasonable manner yet as quickly as possible, but when others suffer as a result, that should be part of one's consideration.

It is very unfortunate what people have to go through. It sucks. But the blame lies with USCIS, not others who request an expedite based on the criteria set by USCIS.

I'm not a heartless person. It absolutely kills me every time I see someone who is pregnant, sick, or what have you, and can't get an expedite. It's absolute BS. But again, we need to all be pointing fingers at the real problem- the government and those who handle cases. Not other filers.

[Naes 12,205]

3 minutes ago, madelineshea said:

Financial loss is the key- not "I planned a wedding and want to f**k the system." Do some people probably do that? Sure. I'd believe it.

The fact remains that I stand to lose a large sum of money if my visa is not expedited. My wedding plans could go entirely awry and something awful could happen tomorrow, and I wouldn't give half a #######. But the fact remains, I would like to try to NOT lose thousands of dollars.

You're assuming my motives and that the wedding is the important part.  The FINANCIAL LOSS is the important part.

It is ridiculous and impossible to request an expedite because of plans. That's not the criteria. I didn't magically make my own criteria.

 

I understand that you and others are frustrated, but in your frustration, you misunderstand.

 

It is very unfortunate what people have to go through. It sucks. But the blame lies with USCIS, not others who request an expedite based on the criteria set by USCIS.

I'm not a heartless person. It absolutely kills me every time I see someone who is pregnant, sick, or what have you, and can't get an expedite. It's absolute BS. But again, we need to all be pointing fingers at the real problem- the government and those who handle cases. Not other filers.

I'm not frustrated... don't assume things. The only part of whole this that was frustrating was being told to support someone who literally said doesn't care what happens to others.

 

but again you are not the only one who will lose large sum of money. There are people who will lose way more than that. As I said I'm wooing for your expedite approval, cause then I can literally say hey dude so let's talk about financial losses to the uscis officer I talk to.

 

it would open a miracle root for some people I know here struggling because of this! Wow I will actually let at least two know that they should go ahead cause somebody managed to get it! 

Edited December 21, 2017 by Naes

[Madeline & Matt 252]

4 minutes ago, Naes said:

I'm not frustrated... don't assume things. The only part of whole this that was frustrating was being told to support someone who literally said doesn't care what happens to others.

 

but again you are not the only one who will lose large sum of money. There are people who will lose way more than that. As I said I'm wooing for your expedite approval, cause then I can literally say hey dude so let's talk about financial losses to the uscis officer I talk to.

 

it would open a miracle root for some people I know here struggling because of this! Wow I will actually let at least two know that they should go ahead cause somebody managed to get it! 

This really got blown out of proportion and I apologize. My point wasn’t to be an a**, but to use my circumstances to help others who may have made my mistakes.

At the end of the day, we all have to look out for ourselves and our own cases and lives. I never stated that I don’t care what happens to others. But we all put ourselves first in life, because we have to.

i really hope that my mistakes and my story can help someone. That way, when this is all said and done, I can tell someone else “hey, here’s what you need to do!!! Don’t be like Madeline!!!” 

I wouldn’t wish this amount of stress on anyone

 

again, I apologize for coming across so abrasively.

[Naes 12,205]

5 minutes ago, madelineshea said:

This really got blown out of proportion and I apologize. My point wasn’t to be an a**, but to use my circumstances to help others who may have made my mistakes.

At the end of the day, we all have to look out for ourselves and our own cases and lives. I never stated that I don’t care what happens to others. But we all put ourselves first in life, because we have to.

i really hope that my mistakes and my story can help someone. That way, when this is all said and done, I can tell someone else “hey, here’s what you need to do!!! Don’t be like Madeline!!!” 

I wouldn’t wish this amount of stress on anyone

 

again, I apologize for coming across so abrasively.

I know and that's why I'm seriously and genuinely telling you if this works it will save lots of people, who got sickness and also losing money because of two households. And there are people who won't have a house because of leasing rules in their countries... believe me I'm serious. 

 

What im saying is that it has been tried several times (job lost, financial losses - they seem to work for longer timelines cases like cr1 or so btw) and that if everyone tried it again and again it will cause all of our cases to get a longer time than what we are expecting. 

 

So if it works please let us know. Because there are people in need of it deliberately, but thinks it won't work - or tried and it didn't work already but they can retry.

 

if it doesn't it doesn't then it will be just another thing we will all be saying "damnnnn" with you.

 

edit: you were not rude, as long as someone is not rude i believe all discussion is fair and may be helpful to all of us, people are tired and frustrated so misunderstandings are inevitable, don't worry. We are all stuck here together  

 

 

Edited December 21, 2017 by Naes

[Madeline & Matt 252]

11 minutes ago, Naes said:

I know and that's why I'm seriously and genuinely telling you if this works it will save lots of people, who got sickness and also losing money because of two households. And there are people who won't have a house because of leasing rules in their countries... believe me I'm serious. 

 

What im saying is that it has been tried several times (job lost, financial losses - they seem to work for longer timelines cases like cr1 or so btw) and that if everyone tried it again and again it will cause all of our cases to get a longer time than what we are expecting. 

 

So if it works please let us know. Because there are people in need of it deliberately, but thinks it won't work - or tried and it didn't work already but they can retry.

 

if it doesn't it doesn't then it will be just another thing we will all be saying "damnnnn" with you.

 

edit: you were not rude, as long as someone is not rude i believe all discussion is fair and may be helpful to all of us, people are tired and frustrated so misunderstandings are inevitable, don't worry. We are all stuck here together  

 

 

When I am king of the universe (har har stupid joke), I swear I’m going to give everyone a house and a pony and I won’t interfere with people’s lives in such a dramatic fashion like this.

 

i genuinely hope that my story can help someone. I hope that people may one day look at my posts and say “wow, let’s not do what she did.” I have a friend who is currently in the beginning stages of looking into this process, and I warned her of every mistake I’ve made.

 

this was honestly my “hail Mary” card. I can look back and realize my mistakes now, and realize when and where I messed up. But even if this doesn’t work for me, maybe I can help save someone else. I’m thinking of starting a blog or something to compile all the knowledge I’ve gained. I wish I would have known what I know now in the very beginning. I wish I would have had the resources and known where to look for information.