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Hi Guys - 

 

Sorry in advance for a long post!

 

We are getting ready to send in I-130 petition for my mom and dad. Here is what we have collected as documents so far:

Would really appreciate if someone can check and advise based on their experience...

 

For mom:

1.) I-130 form

2.) Check for fees

3.) G-1145 enotification form

4.) Cover letter

5.) Copy of my petitioner) birth certificate copy and a certified translation

--- my BC is in non-English

--- my BC has my mom's name shortened (example: Geeta instead of Geetali). I am hoping that putting in the short name in Part 4 5a - 5c (Other names used) for beneficiary will help overcome this. Please also see question #2 below.

6.) Copy of my naturalization certificate

7.) Copy of my unexpired US passport

 

 

For dad:

1.) I-130 form

2.) Check for fees

3.) G-1145 enotification form

4.) Cover letter

5.) Copy of my petitioner) birth certificate copy and a certified translation

--- my BC is in non-English

6.) Copy of my naturalization certificate

7.) Copy of my unexpired US passport

8.) Marriage certificate of my parents

 

Some questions:

1.) I have read in some places that people have sent their mom's and dad's birth certificates alongwith I-130 packet. Is that necessary? That will take some time, so wanted to check if we can send in I-130 with just the above.

We don't have their BCs (birth never registered) but are in the process of getting secondary evidence (School Leaving, etc). We have a copy of my mother's school leaving certificate, but not the original, so we are going to have to apply for a school leaving for her. Also, father doesn't have a school leaving certificate, but has an Age and Domicile certificate that has his birth date and place of birth mentioned - will that do? 

 

2.) Do you see any issues with the short name thing for my mom? I am really worried as my BC data is used to establish relationship for mother. Will the short first name (middle and last names are accurate) cause an issue? Has anyone experienced anything similar? The closest I have re. her short first name being used elsewhere is a copy of her school leaving certificate, but that has her short first name, maiden middle name and maiden last name.

Other doc I can send that has my mother's current legal name is my old Indian passport (last page has names of father and mother). Please, any advice will help. 

 

3.) My parent's marriage certificate is in English except for part of the issuing authority's stamp and some minor notes about issuing copies at the end of the certificate -- which are in native language. I don't think we need to get the marriage certificate translated just for the stamps, do we? 

 

4.) On my parent's marriage certificate, my mother's maiden name is mentioned, not her name after marriage (she took my father's first and last name as her middle and last name respectively). Is having maiden name mentioned on marriage certificate an issue?

 

Thanks very much for all your replies in advance and good luck with your process.

 

 

 

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I am sorry - I don't have any direct experience but I can give my humble opinion. Just from what I have experienced in India, it seems very common for people to have 2 (or more) versions of their name. In fact, my fiance's cousin spells the family name differently than his brother! Perhaps you can write a statement explaining your mother's name situation and have the statement signed by yourself and your mom, plus notarized.

 

I have also seen someone else post about the missing birth certificate. Someone else told me that they had issues when they presented the school certificate and such. Below is a link to the post where I asked about that issue. My fiance's birth was not registered either. He gathered all the paperwork and got his birth registered so he could have an official birth certificate. I am not sure if your parents have time to do that. It was a very long process for him. They required school certificates, his siblings' school certificates (all 6 of them), an affidavit from his mother and older brother (since his dad is deceased), his baptismal certificate, and a written letter from him. He began the process in April/May and didn't get the birth certificate until late July. I really hope that your parents won't have to go that far. But I wanted to share with you what I learned.

 

I wish you and your parents all the best.

 

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On 9/2/2017 at 9:04 PM, TexasHeartsIndia said:

I am sorry - I don't have any direct experience but I can give my humble opinion. Just from what I have experienced in India, it seems very common for people to have 2 (or more) versions of their name. In fact, my fiance's cousin spells the family name differently than his brother! Perhaps you can write a statement explaining your mother's name situation and have the statement signed by yourself and your mom, plus notarized.

 

I have also seen someone else post about the missing birth certificate. Someone else told me that they had issues when they presented the school certificate and such. Below is a link to the post where I asked about that issue. My fiance's birth was not registered either. He gathered all the paperwork and got his birth registered so he could have an official birth certificate. I am not sure if your parents have time to do that. It was a very long process for him. They required school certificates, his siblings' school certificates (all 6 of them), an affidavit from his mother and older brother (since his dad is deceased), his baptismal certificate, and a written letter from him. He began the process in April/May and didn't get the birth certificate until late July. I really hope that your parents won't have to go that far. But I wanted to share with you what I learned.

 

I wish you and your parents all the best.

 

Thanks for the response, TexasHeartsIndia. Here is what we are planning to do (and then cross our fingers):

For mother's I-130:

Besides the check and G1145, I-130 etc,

- Cover letter explaining that my mother's short first name on my birth certificate is really nothing but a shortened form of her long name....Ex. Barb for Barbara...and that her middle and last name are as in the passport. Also that she has interchangeably used the short and long form of her name on documents after marriage.

- Copy of my birth certificate and translation (certified and notarized by a friend, not me)

- Copy of my parents' marriage certificate - this has her maiden name as Bride's name...this is common in India.

- Copy of an affidavit from my mother for One and Same person - this we are getting done now in India

- Copy of an affidavit by my parents' from 15 years back that mentioned their full names, when they were married, my full name, and date of birth. This was created 15 years back as a supporting document for my own GC.

- Copy of Ration card relevant pages that show my father's name, my mother's name (long first name), and my name and relationship between head of household (my father) and my mother (wife) and me. this is also from at least 1990s

- Copy of bank book for an old account that my mother and I were co-account holders of - this has mother's short first name and my name. also has photos of both of us from 1990s

- Copy of my naturalization certificate

- Copy of my mother's passport biographic page (to establish phot identity)

 

Hopefully, this will suffice and won't be too much to establish relationship between her and me. We will see what happens and react accordingly if an when we get an RFE.

 

For father's I-130, all documents mentioned in my post above should suffice.  Might send in the affidavit of One and Same person and the 15year's back affidavit with the docs...but not sure of that yet.

 

Will keep this thread updated as actions happen. Hopefully this helps someone else.

 

 

 

 

 

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