It’s Time: Congress Needs to Open a Formal Impeachment Inquiry

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

16 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

It is right to disavow all hate, I just can't get my head around anyone having the right to spew hate out of their mouth but that's the law of the land so I respect it. 

 

Of course but it was quite fun watching some do mental gymnastics to twist things to suit their narrative. 

I hate overcooked broccoli, but there is no spewing,

[ready4ONE 5,400]

4 hours ago, IAMX said:

You say Trump is self undermining, people knew what Trump's personality was like before he was elected. 

 

I guess it hasn't hit you yet that this is what people wanted. The opposite of self undermining.

 

Clearly you are on shaky ground and are making desperate attempts to tell yourself, by any means necessary, that Trump is hurting himself or is on his last leg, when in fact all he needs to do is hold out in his hand the behavior exemplified by yourself and countless other lefties and whammo, he looks better. If one doesn't believe me, it's perfectly fine to believe your own narrative.. I just have the backing of the election result as proof.

I can't argue that for fewer and fewer people Donald Trump is what they want.

 

You seem to think all criticism of Trump stems from the election, yet either completely ignore, completely dismiss as important, or twist into a pretzel claiming Donald Trump saying X is really meaning Y.

 

The so-called president clearly has either serious mental health issues, or twisted ideas regarding the reality around him. Certainly he gets his advice and information from some extremely questionable sources.

 

Disregard his clear delusion or bald faced lie regarding the election results at your peril. But clearly you have no valid idea how to respond to the fact Donald Trump doesn't accept the results of the election. It is not about me. It is not about Hillary Clinton. Respond to Donald Trump not accepting the election results. We would all love to hear your actual thoughts on this.

[Dashinka 24,438]

12 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

I can't argue that for fewer and fewer people Donald Trump is what they want.

 

You seem to think all criticism of Trump stems from the election, yet either completely ignore, completely dismiss as important, or twist into a pretzel claiming Donald Trump saying X is really meaning Y.

 

The so-called president clearly has either serious mental health issues, or twisted ideas regarding the reality around him. Certainly he gets his advice and information from some extremely questionable sources.

 

Disregard his clear delusion or bald faced lie regarding the election results at your peril. But clearly you have no valid idea how to respond to the fact Donald Trump doesn't accept the results of the election. It is not about me. It is not about Hillary Clinton. Respond to Donald Trump not accepting the election results. We would all love to hear your actual thoughts on this.

You say all the criticism isn't due to the election, then you use an example based on the election results.  Which is it?  To me, the MDL and their allies in the mainstream media are still stinging from not being able to get a horrible candidate with a penchant for tantrums and pathological lying elected.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

21 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

That's what you get with free speech. I don't understand all the hate and never will. If they aren't breaking the law, they can say what they want. Some seem to love making fools out of themselves. 

Free speech is one thing; violent actions, not so much (especially when it turns to murder, but long before that, too).  But to actively spew hate and vitriol towards another demographic element that is already living among you... does that even make sense?  I mean, why would anyone, of any color, think that other colors are a bad thing?  Regardless of your view of how we came to be in the beginning, we numbered very few people back in the day.  We coexisted.  We may have moved to different locations to be around those who looked more like us, and spoke our own language, that is a normal human thing.

 

But I really don't get it when people talk about another race or skin color as if they are inhuman or somehow going to hurt you.  I might disagree with the ideas of say Teddy or Spooky or NB, but at the end of the day, they aren't hurting me, so why would I try to harm them?  Why not just have differing opinions and go on about our personal daily lives.  Kinda like we all do here on CEHST.  No one has physically hurt anyone, in spite of all the differing opinions.  

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

8 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

The issue with Trump for me and many others is fitness for the office. Dismissal of his lying with claims that the issues lied about are small is disingenuous. And dismissive of the fact that Trump appears to genuinely believe his nonsense even when one bit of nonsense contradicts previous nonsense. Trump appears to delusionally believe everything he says.

 

Certainly it appears that there have been some questionable if not outright criminal acts as well but mental instability and a childish temperment are reason enough for impeachment to me.

 

Impeachment isn't about unhappiness over the election. Impeachment isn't going to put Hillary Clinton in the White House. To be crystal clear Clinton wasn't a great choice either, though it is difficult to conceive how she could have been worse.

Trump lies, and that bothers you?  Are you trying to be funny, or are you serious?  Not sure how to read that.

 

But google the lies and corrupt things that Obama did (recent history).  Or all the lies that pretty much EVERY president and politician has told.  Theirs is a game where a web of "creative promises" is what gets them in office.  But once there, they still have to follow the same rules that all previous politicians before them were encumbered by.  They (all of them) may have meant well when they made the promises, but once they get into what is perceived as the seat of power, they soon learn that there are MANY facets and reasons behind the things that are the way they are today.  Sometimes, it is impossible to make changes that one wants.  Kind of like putting Hillary in prison.  Or building a wall.  Or impeaching a president who hasn't committed a crime.  Remember how many times people were calling for the impeachment of Obama?  I never saw a reason for it, but it didn't stop some from trying to get the ball rolling on the right.  Now the ball is on the other side, with about the same momentum.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

8 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Free speech is one thing; violent actions, not so much (especially when it turns to murder, but long before that, too).  But to actively spew hate and vitriol towards another demographic element that is already living among you... does that even make sense?  I mean, why would anyone, of any color, think that other colors are a bad thing?  Regardless of your view of how we came to be in the beginning, we numbered very few people back in the day.  We coexisted.  We may have moved to different locations to be around those who looked more like us, and spoke our own language, that is a normal human thing.

 

But I really don't get it when people talk about another race or skin color as if they are inhuman or somehow going to hurt you.  I might disagree with the ideas of say Teddy or Spooky or NB, but at the end of the day, they aren't hurting me, so why would I try to harm them?  Why not just have differing opinions and go on about our personal daily lives.  Kinda like we all do here on CEHST.  No one has physically hurt anyone, in spite of all the differing opinions.  

What about religion? 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Exactly what part of Donald Trump not accepting the results of the election with his insane and baseless claim of millions of illegal votes don't you understand? Donald Trump is self undermining, pointing out that inconvenient fact is not having a tantrum.

The Hillary crowd did the same thing, even as the election was still ongoing.  Claiming that votes were hacked in MI, WI, FL etc.  Even though several here of the left-leaners have been declaring for over two years that there IS NO voter fraud, that there is no way to sway an election with illegal votes.  Yet when it became clear that Hillary was losing ground, suddenly illegal votes became an issue for the left.  How did that work out for Jill Stein?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

What about religion? 

Not sure what you mean.  As a person who is not very religious, I don't find myself caring one way or another how anyone around me satisfies their quest for good moral behavior.  If you step back to the solar system level, all religions exist to control humans and to get them to "do good", or "do the right thing", in one way shape or form.  For the most part, I think 80% or more of all religious people seek the same basic tenets, minus who their "god" or "prophet" is.  (Hinduism seems to depart the most from other organized religions in their belief of a class system that cannot be changed during "this lifetime".  But I digress)

 

Whatever religion one chooses to pursue/practice, or none, or whatever... does it really matter, as long as they are not causing harm to other people?  As long as the people with whom I come into contact with don't harm me or my family, I truly don't care what the color of their skin, religious preference, type of car they drive (or opt not to, bless the Amish), or job they perform.  At the end of the day, we are all tiny squirrels, trying to get a nut, and avoid death, accidents, and inhumane treatment for as long as we live.

[IAMX 3,055]

2 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

You seem to think all criticism of Trump stems from the election, yet either completely ignore, completely dismiss as important, or twist into a pretzel claiming Donald Trump saying X is really meaning Y.

I do? That's funny. What else do I think?

 

2 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

The so-called president clearly has either serious mental health issues, or twisted ideas regarding the reality around him. Certainly he gets his advice and information from some extremely questionable sources.

Questionable sources.. hmm.. now where have we seen that...

 

 

2 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Disregard his clear delusion or bald faced lie regarding the election results at your peril. But clearly you have no valid idea how to respond to the fact Donald Trump doesn't accept the results of the election. It is not about me. It is not about Hillary Clinton. Respond to Donald Trump not accepting the election results. We would all love to hear your actual thoughts on this.

I've already given my thoughts, which would you like to read again?