Berkeley Police Allowed Antifa to Jump Barricades, Assault Demonstrators

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

8 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Don't try and reason with tantrums man. Just enjoy 'em.

Can you only throw tantrums if your family  was in WW2

 

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

 Yep you did, if I was you I'd wait those 15 minutes.

Edited August 28, 2017 by Mr&Mrs G.

[smilesammich 10,727]

4 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Just because someone has a family member who served in WW2 doesn't give them a monopoly on it. 

 

All WW2 survivors support antifa?  

a monopoly on ww2? they do have a monopoly on their feelings toward their family, a non family member does not.

 

who said that?

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

1 minute ago, IAMX said:

They imagine Antifa are fighting Nazis like this is WW2. 

 

- Argues Antifa are fighting the long-gone Nazis

- Tries psychoanalyzing Trump

 

 

If I didn't find all this funny I'd probably be concerned for their state of health.

 

 

I am insulted on behalf of my family and my wife's family.

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, Mr&Mrs G. said:

I am insulted on behalf of my family and my wife's family.

We need to take a vote here of who has the most family from WW2 so we can figure out who has the monopoly on being allowed to feel insulted.

[smilesammich 10,727]

6 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

You're being too kind. 

i really don't know why i'm even responding. nazis no longer exist!

 

alt facts

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, smilesammich said:

i really don't know why i'm even responding. nazis no longer exist!

 

alt facts

 

Well, there are some neo-Nazis, that purport the holocaust never happened.  Perhaps Nazis never really existed. It's all part of the Obama conspiracy. LOL.

 

 

 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i really don't know why i'm even responding. nazis no longer exist!

 

alt facts

Seriously do you really think the USA is at risk from nazi's and it could eventually become like Germany? 

 

They are just scumbag wannabe nazi white supremecists that the police can easily deal with, no point making them more important than they are.

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

Well, there are some neo-Nazis, that purport the holocaust never happened.  Perhaps Nazis never really existed. It's all part of the Obama conspiracy. LOL.

 

 

 

well that was one of the goals..

 

Quote

All too many people responded to reports about German killings of Jewish civilians by comparing these reports to news stories about German atrocities in occupied Belgium and northern France during World War I. The British media in World War I charged that the German occupation was monstrous, that German soldiers committed many outrages against defenseless civilians in German-occupied Belgium. They charged that German soldiers bayoneted babies, disfigured women, and killed civilians with military-issued poison gas. It turned out after the war that the Allies had invented many of those stories in order to maximize popular support for the war effort. As a result of that experience, many people were skeptical of reports of mass murder operations during World War II. In this case, however, the reports turned out to be generally accurate.

While some people today are misled as a result of the Nazi policies described above into doubting the reality of the Holocaust, others deny the Holocaust for more overtly racist, political, or strategic reasons. These deniers begin with the premise that the Holocaust did not happen. This premise suits their broader purposes. They deny the Holocaust as an article of faith and no amount of rational argumentation can dissuade them. This denial is irrational, largely unrelated either to the facts of the history or to the enormity of the event. Some people deny the Holocaust because of innate antisemitism, irrational hated of Jews.

In fact, Holocaust denial has been called by some scholars the “new antisemitism” for it recycles many of the elements of pre-1945 antisemitism in a post-World War II context. Holocaust deniers argue that reports of the Holocaust are really part of a vast shadowy plot to make the white, western world feel guilty and to advance the interest of Jews. Even at the time of the Holocaust, some people in the United States thought reports of German massacres of Jewish civilians were actually propaganda reports designed to force the government to grant Jews special treatment and consideration.

Many people who deny the Holocaust argue that the supposed “hoax” served above all the interests of the State of Israel. Holocaust denial is, for these people, also an attack on the legitimacy of the State of Israel. Finally, others deny the Holocaust because they want to see a resurgence of Nazi racism. They insist that Nazism was a good political philosophy and that only “negative” press resulting from reports of the genocide the Nazis perpetrated prevent a revival of the Nazi movement today. They deny the Holocaust so that they can attract followers to a new Nazi movement.

Holocaust denial, then, unites a broad range of radical right-wing hate groups in the United States and elsewhere, ranging from Ku Klux Klan segregationists to skinheads seeking to revive Nazism to radical Muslim activists seeking to destroy Israel.

Holocaust deniers want to debate the very existence of the Holocaust as a historical event. They want above all to be seen as legitimate scholars arguing a historical point. They crave attention, a public platform to air what they refer to as “the other side of the issue.” Because legitimate scholars do not doubt that the Holocaust happened, such assertions play no role in historical debates. Although deniers insist that the idea of the Holocaust as myth is a reasonable topic of debate, it is clear, in light of the overwhelming weight of evidence that the Holocaust happened, that the debate the deniers proffer is more about antisemitism and hate politics than it is about history.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007273

[Ban Hammer 13,554]

so far what i'm understanding is
- trump is bad
- neo nazi's bad

- antifa is good, even though their tactics are indistinguishable from those used by the neo nazi's

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Seriously do you really think the USA is at risk from nazi's and it could eventually become like Germany? 

 

They are just scumbag wannabe nazi white supremecists that the police can easily deal with, no point making them more important than they are.

yeah, no.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/newly-appointed-okla-chief-police-denies-neo-nazi-ties-article-1.3445822

[smilesammich 10,727]

3 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

so far what i'm understanding is
- trump is bad
- neo nazi's bad

- antifa is good, even though their tactics are indistinguishable from those used by the neo nazi's

oh they're distinguishable

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/charlottesville-protest-police.html?mcubz=0

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

well that was one of the goals..

 

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007273

 

I wonder if the good Nazis supported the existence of the holocaust or not. You know, there are some good people in their midst.

[IAMX 3,055]

4 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

so far what i'm understanding is
- trump is bad
- neo nazi's bad

- antifa is good, even though their tactics are indistinguishable from those used by the neo nazi's

 

Spot on.

[CaliCat 3,957]

3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

oh they're distinguishable

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/charlottesville-protest-police.html?mcubz=0

 

Only if your eyes are open. 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

12 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

yeah, no.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/newly-appointed-okla-chief-police-denies-neo-nazi-ties-article-1.3445822

That's sad that you even credit these idiots with the potential to take over your country. 

 

One policeman does not tarnish nor imply the whole force is like that, they can control protests. Allowing the wannabes to have their march in Charlottesville and just letting police do their job and it would have went off with nothing happening. Confrontation suits the agenda of white supremecists and gets them in the news. 

 

Antifa seems to want to confront the police and it is something that every citizen should object to. Throwing Molotov cocktails at police because Milo is going to speak is just crazy, not sure how anyone can condone that kind of behaviour.