Don't waste money on a wall, when our roads and bridges are crumbling

[IAMX 3,055]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Toll roads are efficient?

It's definitely a Monday today.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

Just now, Teddy B said:

No, they took all of the toll booths out on the Mass Pike, everything is done by overhead sensors and cameras, no stopping at all and all lanes flowing.

Ok they did that here as well and has nothing to do with my statement at all. I am talking about how HARDLY ANYONE is using the toll lanes on any given day here in the LA Metro area but the freeways are still packed while the toll lane is almost empty. 

[Teddy B 17,252]

4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Toll roads are efficient?

These new toll roads with no toll booths and the overhead sensors/cameras are very efficient, yes.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Just now, cyberfx1024 said:

Ok they did that here as well and has nothing to do with my statement at all. I am talking about how HARDLY ANYONE is using the toll lanes on any given day here in the LA Metro area but the freeways are still packed while the toll lane is almost empty. 

Ah, okay. Why do they still bother with any toll lanes, why not just take license plate pics and bill the drivers if they don't have an E-Z Pass? That's what they do here now.

[Dashinka 24,438]

1 minute ago, Teddy B said:

These new toll roads with no toll booths and the overhead sensors/cameras are very efficient, yes.

I like the no toll roads efficiency even better.  Welcome to the 21st century.

[Dashinka 24,438]

3 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

Ah, okay. Why do they still bother with any toll lanes, why not just take license plate pics and bill the drivers if they don't have an E-Z Pass? That's what they do here now.

I think a Toll Lane is like an HOV lane where people can use it if they pay a toll, not the entire road being tolled (I.e. There are also multiple free lanes).  Sounds like most of the residents in that area would rather go slower in a free lane than pay a toll.

 

The town where I grew up has four draw bridges across the river.  They are considering making one of them a toll bridge to raise money for maintenance.  I think we know the obvious outcome, people will go to the other three free bridges and they will deteriorate even faster.

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[Teddy B 17,252]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

I like the no toll roads efficiency even better.  Welcome to the 21st century.

Agreed, but compared to what congested toll roads used to be, this new technology is far better. At least now you don't get stuck in a traffic jam while having to pay at every toll booth like we did previously. Unfortunately, the paying part is never going away.

[Dashinka 24,438]

2 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

Agreed, but compared to what congested toll roads used to be, this new technology is far better. At least now you don't get stuck in a traffic jam while having to pay at every toll booth like we did previously. Unfortunately, the paying part is never going away.

I don't disagree.  That is why I said welcome to the 21st Century.  I probably should have said the 20th century as hasn't the 407 been electronic since the 90's?

[Teddy B 17,252]

8 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think a Toll Lane is like an HOV lane where people can use it if they pay a toll, not the entire road being tolled (I.e. There are also multiple free lanes).  Sounds like most of the residents in that area would rather go slower in a free lane than pay a toll.

Okay, yes an HOV or Carpool lane we have them here too. Here any car that uses the HOV/Carpool Lane lane is required to have a minimum of 2 occupants in the car or you can be fined. There have been numerous people stopped in the HOV lanes here driving with dressed up mannequins and dummies as the 2nd occupant. Some of them actually look pretty good.

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[Dashinka 24,438]

2 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

Okay, yes an HOV or Carpool lane we have them here two. Here any car that uses the HOV/Carpool Lane lane is required to have a minimum of 2 occupants in the car or you can be fined. There have been numerous people stopped in the HOV lanes here driving with dressed up mannequins and dummies as the 2nd occupant. Some of them actually look pretty good.

Yes, I have heard of that as well, blow up dolls are also sometimes used.  We do not have any HOV lanes yet in Michigan, but I hear we may be seeing them soon as the Feds may have them tied to some funds.

Edited August 28, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[Teddy B 17,252]

2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I don't disagree.  That is why I said welcome to the 21st Century.  I probably should have said the 20th century as hasn't the 407 been electronic since the 90's?

I'm not sure when 407 started using electronic tolls.

[IAMX 3,055]

4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yes, I have heard of that as well, blow up dolls are also sometimes used.  We do not have any HOV lanes yet in Michigan, but I hear we may be seeing them soon as the Feds may have them tied to some funds.

I actually saw some people trying the blowup doll method on the 101 commuter lanes and others in the Bay Area when living in California. Never stopped them from being pulled over.. no idea why they thought police are this stupid.

Edited August 28, 2017 by IAMX

[CaliCat 3,957]

On 8/25/2017 at 11:59 AM, Teddy B said:

Pffft roads?? We got illegals to worry bout!! Roads, really??

 

 

Roads are for losers. Real winners use helicopters and airplanes.

 

 

[jg121783 3,909]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

then stop asking. i think i agree with a point made in your other post, as concerns the event in berkley.

 

 

however, i absolutely condone the violent resistance antifa provided in charlottesville.

So you condone violence. As long as it is left wing violence. I don't condone violence from either side period. I believe in following the law not vigilantism, mob rule or anarchy. That is the difference between me and you I guess.

[jg121783 3,909]

This is interesting.  Somehow a quote from another thread got posted in this thread.