When will the left disavow the violent hate groups blm and antifa?(Merged)

[Boiler 45,402]

So you do disavow the violent hate groups blm and antifa

[jg121783 3,909]

1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

 

i'm in denial while also lying about being in denial. we both agree that i don't find your sources reliable and you don't find mine reliable. so let's move on.

you say you denounce violence on both sides but i've only read you actually denouncing it on one side. anyway the whole 'either you do the same or you support violence and hate period' is very 'my way or the highway' of you. sounds authoritarian. i don't get along well with those types, so.. have a great weekend!

First of all i have stated more than once that I denounce violence on both sides. This is the tactic the left uses against Trump. Saying he refuses to disavow radical right wing violence after he disavows it multiple times. I understand the race card is all the left has after the Russia thing fizzled out. Trump was absolutely right that there is violence on both sides but the left can't come to grips with this fact.

 

Secondly it's not "my way or the highway". I'm just pointing out a simple truth. If you are unwilling to denounce violence on both sides then by definition you support violence on at least one side. That and you admitted you support antifa and their violent ways.

[Boiler 45,402]

I obviously denounce all gate groups.

 

If that was not clear from my Liberal position.

[IAMX 3,055]

7 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

First of all i have stated more than once that I denounce violence on both sides. This is the tactic the left uses against Trump. Saying he refuses to disavow radical right wing violence after he disavows it multiple times. I understand the race card is all the left has after the Russia thing fizzled out. Trump was absolutely right that there is violence on both sides but the left can't come to grips with this fact.

 

Secondly it's not "my way or the highway". I'm just pointing out a simple truth. If you are unwilling to denounce violence on both sides then by definition you support violence on at least one side. That and you admitted you support antifa and their violent ways.

Different opinion = authoritarian

Snowflakes attacking people for offending them = righteous

 

Allahu akbar?

Edited August 25, 2017 by IAMX

[IAMX 3,055]

8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I obviously denounce all gate groups.

 

If that was not clear from my Liberal position.

No no, you must denounce only the ones the left approve of denouncing, and as often as they tell you. 

 

[Póg mo 1,749]

Typical right-wing false equivalence. BLM ≠ White supremacists. 

ANTIFA ≠ NAZI 

[Póg mo 1,749]

1 hour ago, IAMX said:

No no, you must denounce only the ones the left approve of denouncing, and as often as they tell you. 

 

Your problem is that you insist on deviding everything along partisan lines. The right has its Nazis so the left must also have its own set Nazis. Anyone who disagrees is labeled a leftist who just can't accept the same conclusions you have drawn. #SAD 

[Boiler 45,402]

5 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Typical right-wing false equivalence. BLM ≠ White supremacists. 

ANTIFA ≠ NAZI 

Nobody is saying them are the same, just that the one thing they have in common is that they are violent hate groups.

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

21 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Nobody is saying them are the same, just that the one thing they have in common is that they are violent hate groups.

Very simple explanation but too many need to take these things off to understand.

 

[jg121783 3,909]

44 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Typical right-wing false equivalence. BLM ≠ White supremacists. 

ANTIFA ≠ NAZI 

 

41 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Your problem is that you insist on deviding everything along partisan lines. The right has its Nazis so the left must also have its own set Nazis. Anyone who disagrees is labeled a leftist who just can't accept the same conclusions you have drawn. #SAD 

 

37 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Nobody is saying them are the same, just that the one thing they have in common is that they are violent hate groups.

This has nothing to do with who is a Nazi and who isn't. It is about violent hate groups on both sides. Whatever label you want to give them they are both violent hate groups. Nice try with the red herring though.

[Póg mo 1,749]

54 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

 

 

This has nothing to do with who is a Nazi and who isn't. It is about violent hate groups on both sides. Whatever label you want to give them they are both violent hate groups. Nice try with the red herring though.

No not really. Neo Nazis want to get rid of all non christian whites, not sure if white Catholics are still included in the group they want to remove, and then you have BLM which is a group protesting the historically marginalizing of black people in American society. So no, they are not the same. Not even close. The "rights" alignment with the goals of admitted racists should be the thing that concerns everyone, not some imaginary left wing menace. 

[jg121783 3,909]

15 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

No not really. Neo Nazis want to get rid of all non christian whites, not sure if white Catholics are still included in the group they want to remove, and then you have BLM which is a group protesting the historically marginalizing of black people in American society. So no, they are not the same. Not even close. The "rights" alignment with the goals of admitted racists should be the thing that concerns everyone, not some imaginary left wing menace. 

 

You convienently didn't mention antifa. By the way the white supremacists are viewed as a fringe group and are repeatedly disavowed by a vast majority of the right. I was ready to give the left the benefit of the doubt as far as antifa goes because I figured they were viewed as a fringe group by the left but I see I was very wrong. Many in the left embrace them and even make excuses for their violent and hateful behavior. That is the difference between the right and the left on this issue. The right in general disavows violent groups on all sides. The left in general embraces their extremist groups and tries to race bait the right repeatedly. It is really a mental illness.

[IAMX 3,055]

2 hours ago, Póg mo said:

Your problem is that you insist on deviding everything along partisan lines. The right has its Nazis so the left must also have its own set Nazis. Anyone who disagrees is labeled a leftist who just can't accept the same conclusions you have drawn. #SAD 

I have added focus on the more "crazy" poles of polarity. Guess where you are.

Edited August 26, 2017 by IAMX

[IAMX 3,055]

52 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

 

You convienently didn't mention antifa. By the way the white supremacists are viewed as a fringe group and are repeatedly disavowed by a vast majority of the right.

Too late, Hitler has returned.

 

[Póg mo 1,749]

Just now, jg121783 said:

 

You convienently didn't mention antifa. By the way the white supremacists are viewed as a fringe group and are repeatedly disavowed by a vast majority of the right. I was ready to give the left the benefit of the doubt as far as antifa goes because I figured they were viewed as a fringe group by the left but I see I was very wrong. Many in the left embrace them and even make excuses for their violent and hateful behavior. That is the difference between the right and the left on this issue. The right in general disavows violent groups on all sides. The left in general embraces their extremist groups and tries to race bait the right repeatedly. It is really a mental illness.

I didn't mention ANTIFA in the last post, but at any rate, it's irrelevant because the goals of ANTIFA mostly revolve around fighting right-wing hate groups. If those hate groups didn't exist, then ANTIFA would not either. The right likes to pretend that  groups like neo Nazis are separate from them, but fascist ideology doesn't come out of a vacuum.